Which Keg kit should I buy?

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  1. HomeBrewer_Dan

    HomeBrewer_Dan Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014

    Hey guys. I want to start filtering and kegging my beer. What are my options? What kit should I buy? I see kits that come with two taps and faucets. I'd like two if my own on tap :-) What do you think?
     
  2. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Not exactly sure what you mean by filtering.

    As to what kits, well that depends entirely on what you want and how much money you have to work with. Personally, I would put the system together yourself, instead of purchasing "kits."
     
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  3. HomeBrewer_Dan

    HomeBrewer_Dan Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014

    By filtering I mean straining the beer through a mesh to rid the sediment and have a "cleaner" beer. I believe the only reason you don't filter beer when bottling is because the fermenting sugar needs the yeast to carbonate? You force carbonate the beer in the keg.

    I'm looking to spend $250-$300
     
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Most homebrewers who keg do not filter. I mean like 99.999 percent, approximately. If you do filter, you need to do it without introducing oxygen. Straining through a mesh would introduce a lot of O2.
     
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  5. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    If you're talking about filtering after fermentation, the majority of people don't do this. Your beer will clear in the keg over time, or you can use gelatin. There are also methods during the boil that can aid in clearing.

    Does that $250-300 include the fridge or freezer you'll be using?
     
  6. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    No need to filter really, the yeast and sediment will floc out over time and sit at the bottom of the keg, only your first glass or so will have a bunch of sediment, after that as long as the keg is left in place you will have nice clear beer (given that you are using a yeast that flocculates decently).

    In getting a system, do you have a fridge for the kegs or a way to keep them between 35 and 40 degrees constantly? Without that, the $250-$300 may be pretty tough. You can get used corny kegs for ~$60 at many places. That budget seems a bit light for a full on kegging set up IMO, but craigslist can change all of that in a heartbeat.
     
  7. mugs1789

    mugs1789 Zealot (611) Dec 6, 2005 Maryland

    I bought my kit from either Midwest or Northern Brewer a bunch of years ago. I forget which. The kit came with a CO2 tank, 1 corney, single keg regulator, picnic tap, and gas-line assembly. It was about $150 when I bought it. After a month or two, I realized that I wanted to serve from 2 kegs at once so I bought a gas splitter, another gas-line assembly, and picnic tap. I picked up a few kegs from ebay.

    I still use a single-keg regulator. I don't need to set my kegs at different pressures. Also, I still serve from picnic taps in the keezer. I don't use draft faucets. This works well for me.
     
  8. cfrobrew

    cfrobrew Initiate (0) Oct 9, 2012 Texas

    I just got this beersmith email, odd timing in case you're feelin' froggy about filtering... Im with the rest of the gang here though, cold crash and suck it off the bottom. Sometimes I siphon in through a grain bag to get rid of and serious chunks, especially when I use coffee or other clumpy adjuncts like cookies haha.

    BeerSmith Home Brewing News
    Filtering your Home Brewed Beer
    Almost all commercial brewers filter their beer to rapidly improve flavor and clarity. Yet few home brewers filter their beer, either because they lack the equipment or prefer the raw flavor of unfiltered beer. However filtering is a good option for intermediate to advanced brewers who want crystal clear, smooth flavored beer.

    Why Filter?
    Filtering removes yeast, tannins and some large proteins from the beer that contribute both to off flavors and haze. While many of these impurities will eventually precipitate out of the beer through lagering and aging, filtering accelerates the process by removing them in minutes instead of weeks or months. This is a big reason why commercial brewers use filters - time is money and it is much cheaper for them to filter the beer than store it for weeks or months.

    Filtering also has the advantage that it can remove very small impurities from the beer - even those that would not fall out of suspension in the natural aging process. Filters can remove particles as small as 1 micron or even smaller. This can result in a cleaner flavor and much better clarity than is possible with natural aging.

    A question many new brewers ask is if they can filter their beer to eliminate the sediment in the bottom of the bottles? The answer is unfortunately no, unless you have some kind of kegging/carbonation system. Filtering the beer removes the yeast from it, so if you filter and then bottle with priming sugar you will just get flat beer.

    The only way to filter and bottle beer is to filter your beer into a keg, then artificially carbonate it, and then bottle it from the keg using a counter-pressure bottle filler or beer gun. Also having a pressurized keg makes it much easier to use an inline filter, as gravity works very slowly with typical beer filters.

    Choosing a Filter
    First, you need to choose a filter size. The filter should be fine enough to filter out tannins and yeast cells, but not too fine or it could alter the flavor of your finished beer. Around 1 micron is the sweet spot for filter size - smaller than 0.5 microns and you risk filtering out some flavor, while larger ones (5 micron and up) may leave yeast in the beer. To filter out bacteria which some commercial brewers do for shelf stability, you need to go to 0.3 microns or below. I don't recommend going below 0.5 microns for home brewing.

    Another factor when choosing filter size is how fast your filter may clog. Many commercial brewers actually use a two stage filter. They start with a 5 micron filter to eliminate the large particles and then use a smaller 0.5 micron filter inline as a second stage to filter small particles. If you have a large budget you can do the same, but for a single filter 1 micron is fine.

    The most popular beer filters are inline canister filters with a replaceable filter element. These are inexpensive and work well if you have high quality filter cartridges. Some wine filters come in a plate format which offers a larger surface area that is less prone to clogging. I do not recommend using household water filters as these are slow and prone to clogging. Purchase a filter designed for use with beer and change your filter often as the small inline filters clog quickly.

    Filtering Your Homebrew
    Despite the fact that filtering can be used to accelerate the aging of your beer, you don't want to filter your home brewed beer too early. Some important chemical changes take place during the later phases of fermentation and early aging. If you halt these too early by filtering you will end up with poor flavor balance. Commercial brewers use a additives and techniques that allow them to filter earlier.

    Allow the beer to fully complete fermentation and then sit in the secondary for at least 2-3 weeks before filtering, then move it to your keg. The filtering process is very simple if you use two kegs. Place your inline filter in between the full and empty kegs and use low CO2 pressure to transfer the beer from one keg to the other through the filter.

    Once the filtering/transfer is complete, close the top on the second keg, purge the air from the top several times and you can refrigerate and force carbonate it as you normally would with any keg.

    Looking for high quality filters and filtering equipment? MoreBeer carries a full line of equipment and when you order via this link you will be supporting BeerSmith.

    Thank you again for your continued support!

    Brad SmithBeerSmith.comFollow BeerSmith on Twitter and Facebook
     
  9. HomeBrewer_Dan

    HomeBrewer_Dan Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014

    I already have a larger refrigerator I converted a few years ago. I currently have beer on tap. I'm just looking to get away from bottling for the most part. I have my co2 tank on the outside of my refrigerator so I have room for a corny keg or two.

    So I'm looking to spend the 200-300$ on a kegging system. That's all I need.
     
  10. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    It sounds like you already have the basics. So, I'm not sure what a kit has to offer. Perhaps you only need to get a Co2 splitter, and some cornys then?

    Then decide if you want picnic taps or Perlicks. Don't even bother with the cheap faucets.
     
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  11. HomeBrewer_Dan

    HomeBrewer_Dan Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014

    Sorry, i didn't explain the beer I usually keep on tap. The beer I have on tap now Is Yuengling lager. I buy my kegs filled. I want to keg my home brew and keep that on tap along with whatever is purchase from a distributor.
     
  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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