Whirlpool set ups

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  1. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Anyone got some pics, or explanation/parts list of their whirlpool set up on their kettle?

    I just bought a new pump with all the QD fittings and such, and I'm trying to decide the best way to go about my whirlpool set up.

    I use a immersion chiller currently, and thought maybe I could rig up a way to attach some copper tubing to it and have another QD fitting for the high temp hosing to circulate the wort from the bottom of the kettle after flame out.

    Then, I wondered if it would be better to drill in the kettle about an inch or so under what my lowest wort level would be, put a valve on the outside under a handle, a QD to it, and then maybe a 90* street or something in the kettle angled down a little bit?

    Any help, info there?
     
  2. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    To test my whirlpool I made a "poor-mans" modification. I stripped some 12 ga solid copper wire into three pieces about 6" long. I formed a loop in the middle and crimped the ends around my immersion chiller, roughly mid-way up. My output hose from the pump goes over the kettle brim and is threaded through the three loops. This makes the hose bend (arc) in the same radius as the chiller and gives a very respectable whirlpool. This is something like Jamil's modification, but I believe he uses solid copper tubing.

    Time involved was less than ten minutes and cost was zero. It was meant to be temporary to look for problems but it worked so well I stayed with it.
     
  3. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    Pics! if you have any. I am very interested in this thread too. I am imagining what you are describing but want to get a visual.
     
  4. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    Okay . . . but no zingers about a filthy immersion chiller. I have graduated to a plate chiller and Mr. IC is retired to storage:

    I took a few copper wire pieces and bent them so my hose would go through them (enough friction to hold a silicone hose) and then twisted them around the IC coils. Here you can see two easily, the third is closed to the camera:

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    Here is the hose threaded through the loops. Two loops would probably work, but it only took another minute to add the third. The copper loops are attached loosely to the coils and can be moved if needed:

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    Obviously you want to thread the hose before you dunk the IC into boiling wort. Once loaded, the silicone is shaped the same as the coils and creates a nice whirlpool. For what it's worth, the temp inside the coil seemed to drop the same as the outer portion of the kettle. This does not compete aesthetically with a drilled-port/QD-fitting . . . but can't beat the price and I was pleased with the whirlpool effect.
     
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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  6. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    Troll.
     
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  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Heh. Seriously, that is my whirlpool setup. It's also my mash paddle and wort boil stirrer.
     
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  8. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I just know someone would come in and post a picture with a spoon soon enough.

    I plan to use the pump to whirlpool better, but also to transfer wort around as well. Figure it would be great to use as a hopback too, and I can hold back my flame out additions, to keep the wort loss down and the crap in the kettle down too. Put the leaf in the hopback and run the wort through it.
     
  9. Jesse14

    Jesse14 Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    MoreBeer has a whirlpool arm add-on for immersion chillers for $13. Its already bent and ready to attach with zip ties and/or hose clamps. Best $13 I ever spent. Saved me a lot of hassle from trying to bend the pipe properly. Then I took it down to my local plumbing supply place and had them set me up with fittings for the disconnects I had. Total cost was about $20. Works the balls.
     
  10. FarmerTed

    FarmerTed Pundit (928) May 31, 2011 Colorado

    This is what I have, from morebeer. I've only gotten to use it once, but it seemed alright. It's a little pricey, but what the hell, it was easy to mount.
     
  11. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I use a spoon and my arm. My friend however uses magic pumps and this setup...[​IMG]

    Both work pretty well. I sweat. He doesn't.
     
  12. Jesse14

    Jesse14 Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    Just a nit pick but shouldn't the pick-up and whirlpool face the same direction? That way you don't direct the trub right into the pick-up tube. Minor but could help.
     
  13. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I think his thinking is with both sucking/pulling from opposite directions the whirlpool spins faster. He could install a diverter plate by his pick up to help if he wanted.
     
  14. Naugled

    Naugled Pooh-Bah (1,944) Sep 25, 2007 New York
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    I've been meaning to post this...
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    I used soft copper pipe and a cam disconnect to make a whirl pooling port. I just bent it so it fits over the top of the kettle and then another bend in the direction of the whirl pool. The pictures are in a bucket just for illustration.
    It makes an ok WP, I may pinch the end a bit next time to see if creates a better whirl pool.
     
  15. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Thanks for the ideas and pictures, guys.

    I think I have an idea of what I want to do.. I need, or better yet, I should be looking into the best way to install a pick up tube in my kettle. Obviously it's not flush near the bottome, it's actually around an inch from the bottom, maybe an inch and a half, so I need to make a pick up for it, to maybe try and get most of it out of there.

    Plan to whirlpool it, do my hopstands, or pumping it through a hopback into the kettle as well. Chill it while whirlpooling, then pull the QD, and put the hose into the fermenter and pump it all out that way. Seems easy..
     
  16. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

  17. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    thanks telejunkie, might be what I need infact.
     
  18. rundownhouse

    rundownhouse Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2005 Tennessee

    Here's mine:

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    Just soldered some copper together. It hooks over the side of the kettle. Cam connection for ease of hookup, and a slight curve on the wort return to loosely match the inside of the kettle. Half the reason for making this was an excuse to learn to solder, which I had never done before.
     
  19. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I cut the nubb off of mine and it fits in an electric drill. You may as well aerate while you're standing there. :slight_smile:
     
  20. jester5120

    jester5120 Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2011 Pennsylvania

    The reason I set it up this way was to increase speed. I figured if i pushed and pulled from the same direction it would actually create a counterclockwise motion on top and a clockwise motion on the bottom (or vice versa) and wouldn't really spin the wort at all.

    The trub does go through the pickup tube and back out the whirlpool arm but for the most part it settles out in the middle. Its just when I have tons of hops in a beer that the cone gets too big and spreads out, then i get a little bit of hops in the fermenter. (which is what's goin on in that picture)
     
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