White Chocolate possibly infected; Patrick Rue responds

Discussion in 'US - West' started by calidelphia, Aug 28, 2013.

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  1. calidelphia

    calidelphia Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2012 California

    Just popped a bottle of 13 WC and it tastes like slightly tart, rotten apple juice.

    Anyone else get an off bottle?
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  2. drgarage

    drgarage Disciple (393) Aug 19, 2008 California

    Ruh-roh! I wondered if Ebony and Oak was just foreshadowing for other barrel-aging issues to come...
  3. JasonFromLA

    JasonFromLA Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013 California

    Infection issues are never fun. Here we go...
  4. rgco

    rgco Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2012 California

    Would infection make it to kegs, too? Not sure if the Bruery separates filling bottles versus kegs, because the keg drafts I had were fine with no sign of infection. Or my palette just sucks!
  5. drgarage

    drgarage Disciple (393) Aug 19, 2008 California

    Depends on if they force-carbed or not. Bottle conditioning can accelerate an already existing infection, as it gives any incipient bacteria more food.
  6. Xul

    Xul Champion (856) May 18, 2008 California

    Storage temperature would also come into play, as kegs will be kept cold, greatly slowing down bacterial activity, while people might have bottles stored at room temperature.

    I'm curious to open a bottle now, really hope there's not a widespread infection issue.
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  7. t8000shx

    t8000shx Initiate (194) Mar 2, 2004 New York

    I've had beer from at least a half-dozen bottles of WC over both last year's and this year's batch - never tasted anything resembling an infection. Here's hoping it's just your bottle (not to be a dick).
  8. Rau71

    Rau71 Initiate (0) Dec 12, 2011 California

    I did pick up some tartness in my last bottle. Other people at the tasting who weren't sure what was opened asked if it was a sour.
  9. JasonFromLA

    JasonFromLA Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013 California

    '12 WC is definitely not an issue. Would just be '13 bottles. I'm curious to open a few of my '13's now.
  10. Rocket80

    Rocket80 Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2011 California

    They are still serving Ebony & Oak at the Bruery, had it on Sunday and thought it was really good - so at least for that beer it appears to have been a bottle only issue.
    Edit: Also had the WC '13 and thought it tasted just like it should.
  11. abecall98

    abecall98 Devotee (420) Aug 11, 2007 California

    Damn, I am sitting on a case of '13 White Chocolate. Damn indeed. I hope the are fine, I really liked the '12.
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  12. rrryanc

    rrryanc Aspirant (280) May 19, 2006 California

    A case?! Different folks, different tastes I guess.

    While I don't really care if this batch is infected or not (didn't get any WC this year), the "trend" of infections would be a definite concern. If BT is infected...
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  13. roshambo74

    roshambo74 Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2011 California

    If BT is infected they will say it was on purpose and charge 40 bucks for it :slight_smile:
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  14. stawn

    stawn Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2008 California

    It's probably just your spelling.
  15. tyrsis

    tyrsis Aspirant (213) Mar 13, 2009 California

    This will make my remaining bottle of Batch 1 WC rar walez bruh

    suck it, beer nerds
  16. No1Smitty

    No1Smitty Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2011 California

    I JUST ordered two bottles yesterday. :grinning: time will tell.
  17. calidelphia

    calidelphia Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2012 California

    No Dick inferred.

    I popped this at a Beachwood tasting today with 9 others and all agreed it was way off. I had a 12 about a month ago and it was spot on.

    Just saying.
  18. calidelphia

    calidelphia Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2012 California

    ISO: wAle WC
    FT: BA Token
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  19. m34josh

    m34josh Initiate (76) Oct 19, 2009 California

    Yep. Definitely something wrong with the first bottle of '13 I opened (I have since opened a second one that was fine.) Mine smelled more like champagne or white wine than it did white chocolate and it was sour. Completely different than the one I got with my first RS shipment earlier this year. FWIW, I emailed The Bruery and they are sending me another one, so at least the customer service is awesome. But I hate sours
  20. calidelphia

    calidelphia Initiate (0) Mar 10, 2012 California

    Looks like an email is in order for me.
  21. JasonFromLA

    JasonFromLA Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2013 California

    Time to buy a bunch of '13 WC!
  22. RedBeeron

    RedBeeron Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2012 California

    I had observed in another thread that my bottle of WC gushed a little bit when first opened.

    I had previously drank cherry oude tart, so if there were any sour notes they were likely masked.
  23. CommanderOfAwesome

    CommanderOfAwesome Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2012 California

    Must be why they released a bunch to be sold online.
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  24. Saxmusik45

    Saxmusik45 Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2011 California

    I also had the first bottle I opened this past weekend gush quite a bit. It definitely tasted substantially different to the bottle that I drank from the initiation package a few months ago.
  25. drgarage

    drgarage Disciple (393) Aug 19, 2008 California

    This would suggest the Bruery has figured out how to carb extremely high alcohol sours, something that continues to elude Lost Abbey...
  26. HoppyLuckyGoGo

    HoppyLuckyGoGo Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2012 California

    Well I hope they do the same refund thing with the Ebony and Oak if this is sour.....
    Cause I'm sitting on a bunch!
  27. Grant35

    Grant35 Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2012 California

    Zing! But let me guess, I'll see you this Saturday, right?
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  28. sirtomtom

    sirtomtom Initiate (104) Dec 10, 2010 California

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  29. drgarage

    drgarage Disciple (393) Aug 19, 2008 California

    Sadly, no -- my alma mater Northwestern is playing Cal at Berkeley for the first time ever, so I'm staying home. No DDG for me.
  30. RaulMatisse

    RaulMatisse Initiate (72) Jan 8, 2010 California

    I opened two 2013 bottles recently and they both had a slight tart tinge to them. I found this also to be the case with a bottle of 2012 that I recently opened; however, the tartness in the 2013 bottles was more pronounced.

    FWIW, I've liked WC from its first release and always considered a subtle funk/tartness to be a general characteristic of the beer.
  31. JOrtt

    JOrtt Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2012 North Carolina

    Just got two in the mail today. Popped the first and I'm with the OP...Hope my second isn't like this.
  32. jefeld

    jefeld Initiate (0) Mar 31, 2010 Illinois

    . . . and here we go again.
  33. ASUBeer

    ASUBeer Initiate (0) Nov 4, 2011 North Carolina

    Damn it.
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  34. 82300sd

    82300sd Initiate (49) Dec 24, 2012 California

    How do you tell 2012 from 2013 from the label? Does 2013 have a different ABV?
  35. RedBeeron

    RedBeeron Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2012 California

    2013 is bottle dated somewhere around the neck.

    2013's wax is also noticeably more "white".
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  36. Uncleserg

    Uncleserg Initiate (0) Sep 19, 2009 California

    Label says 2013 plus white wax is solid white as oppose to cream colored. B1 WC has no year on label. Hope this helps.
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  37. 82300sd

    82300sd Initiate (49) Dec 24, 2012 California

    Thanks for differentiating details Uncleserg!
  38. JigsawRecords

    JigsawRecords Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2011 California

    The bigger concern... a good percentage of the Bruery beers are recommended to age. Discovering a similar issue in 2/3 years would suck. How do beer recalls happen? Should Toyota be consulted?
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  39. ZombieJester

    ZombieJester Initiate (0) Jan 26, 2013 California

    If this is a widespread thing, i hope i get coupons to cover my $60 bucks.
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  40. Franch

    Franch Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 District of Columbia

    plz no
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