Why are sours uncommon?

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  1. GuzzLah

    GuzzLah Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2013 Illinois

    Five gallons of homebrewed sour ale = $40 and a wait time of 9-18 months.

    Five gallons of Red Poppy or Consecration = $800

    Cost of homebrew gear for a 5 gallon batch= $400-$800.

    Hmmmm? How many more years do you plan on drinking beer?
     
  2. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Because many BA's don't care much for them.
     
  3. slander

    slander Pooh-Bah (2,568) Nov 5, 2001 New York
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    Because it's not an easily approachable style for most.
    Because it's not what newbies think of as 'beer'.
    Because Lindemans happened and that's what they think a lambic is.
     
  4. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    A little fact that I got at a conference 10 years back. In the homeland of sours, Belgium, the lambics, Flemish Reds and Sour Browns account for <3% of the sales of beer.

    I lived in Germany. My co-workers thought that the sour beers were obviously infected and not fit for human consumption.

    It was said above that the barrels have to be scrapped after 3 uses. That is the standard for Bourbon barrel aged beers where you don't (normaly) want infected beers. The porosity of the wood is place the wild yeast and bacteria can establish a home and is hard to disinfect (every see a thead about infected BA beers). A barrel is not ideal for normal beer, but is ideal for sour beers. Some of the barrels at Cantillion are said to be 100 years old, so with a storage time of 3 years per batch, they have been used 30 times or so.
     
  5. deadonhisfeet

    deadonhisfeet Pooh-Bah (2,481) Apr 23, 2011 Kentucky
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    There's absolutely nothing wrong with Lindeman's Gueuze Cuvee Renee.
     
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  6. slander

    slander Pooh-Bah (2,568) Nov 5, 2001 New York
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    Of course there isn't.
    But when i when I spoke of 'easily approachable' and 'newbies', you knew very well that I was talking about the Framobise, et al.
     
  7. deadonhisfeet

    deadonhisfeet Pooh-Bah (2,481) Apr 23, 2011 Kentucky
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    Of course. I wasn't scolding you and I apologize if it came out that way. I was merely pointing that out so that any ``sour newbies'' who read your post will not assume that all Lindemans sours are poor. I actually think the Cuvee Renee is a very good place to start (since it's easy to find).
     
  8. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I heard that's why milk stouts are so thick.
     
  9. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Seriously? Maybe if you buy your gear exclusively from Blichman. I have about $200 invested in all my gear, and can brew sours all day long.
     
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