Why do breweries close so early?

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  1. BaseballNBeer

    BaseballNBeer Crusader (490) Apr 22, 2015 Michigan
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    I wonder how their location effects their hours. A lot of the ones that close earlier than I would expect are located in industrial areas. There might be local zoning ordinances limiting their hours of public operation.
     
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  2. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I don't really know the answer to this, but I'd wager it's because they're owner operators to a large degree and that they spend a good bit of their waking life there. Why would they want to be there at 1am? Everyone needs a break.
     
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  3. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    That's true also many of them don't brew enough beer to keep longer hours.
     
  4. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Resident Culture in Charlotte is my favorite brewery, and during the week they are open 3-10 for the most part, 12-11 on Fri and Sat. Seems more than reasonable to me, and don't forget there's the inevitable cleanup after they close, so they're putting in a ton of hours that we don't see both on the front side and back end.
     
  5. HeavenlyGoat

    HeavenlyGoat Initiate (0) Apr 28, 2017 Indiana

    It's really what makes business sense and this is largely decided by the businesses customer base. Some towns are more active and breweries stay open late because there are customers to support those hours. Breweries will always close earlier than bars because liquor can fuel people later into the night than beer. When breweries close, most bars and clubs are just getting going.

    I do agree that some close a bit early. Usually from what I've seen it's a package brewery taproom. Their bread and butter is in packaged beer so I can see only being open during peak hours. The struggle is real.
     
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  6. eppCOS

    eppCOS Grand Pooh-Bah (4,570) Jun 27, 2015 Colorado
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    Yeah, nothing good happens to me if I stay at a brewery or beer past 10 p.m.
    Nothing.
     
  7. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Pretty sure if bars could make a living without staying open late, they'd close early too.
     
  8. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    I work in a bar and by the time 1-3am comes around, security is kicking drunk people out for being obnoxiously drunk. They probably want to avoid that reputation plus when i did work in a brewery, the brewers got there at 4-5am to start.
     
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  9. CNoj012

    CNoj012 Initiate (0) Dec 7, 2014 New York

    Purely speculation on my part, but I'd think their insurance costs would be higher if they were open til the early am like bars. Insurance costs are probably already high because they are brewing on premise.

    Plus the cost of labor. Most breweries I frequent open somewhere between 10am-Noon. Many bars around here that are open until 2am don't open for business until 5pm, and that's if they serve dinner. Bars that are just a spot for people to get drunk may not open until 7-8pm.
     
  10. wasatchback

    wasatchback Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jan 12, 2014 Tajikistan
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    I would think state laws and/or the particular license they have has a lot to do with it.
     
  11. Sirnickatnite

    Sirnickatnite Zealot (642) May 20, 2017 Texas
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    I currently work a brewery, it is mostly because of the crowd that late nights lends itself to. Late night folks who already have been drinking liquor downtown and stroll in looking for some high ABV brew. That's a good majority of the folks who come in late. As well as it is typically a slower time anyway, so might as well close shop early and leave it to the bars to stay open.
     
  12. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    Most of the breweries around my parts are usually closed Mon-Wed all together, and Thursday Friday...open around 3 or 4pm and close around 9-10pm. Weekends, same close time but open either at noon or 1pm.

    For those of you who get to work remotely off a laptop w/ wifi, wouldn't it be great to get to sit in a brewery during the daytime every now and then for a change of pace? Better than a coffee shop or Panera.
     
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  13. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    I hate when breweries chose early. I have young kids and I always like to have dinner with the fam and then put the kids down. I usually don’t go out until @8pm. Since I am not interested in night clubs or the bar scene and just want good beer from my local brewery. However, they close @9pm. So I end up paying Uber more than I like. I can see why but I just want to complain anyways.
     
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  14. SSGCujo

    SSGCujo Savant (1,083) Jul 12, 2016 Wisconsin

    Lakefront in Milwaukee closes at 10pm. I could drink there all night. The owners don't want to deal with dumbasses at 2am, puking and starting fights because you looked at their girlfriend. Go to the bar after the brewery, you'll still have a good time.
     
  15. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Pooh-Bah (2,698) Apr 8, 2017 Ohio
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    Unless I misinterpreted OPs post, i am kind of shocked by how many people think OP is expecting breweries to be open midnight or later. Feel more like he is looking for them to be open till what feels like a pretty reasonable time - closer to 10 or so, not 8pm.
     
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  16. nick_perry

    nick_perry Pundit (927) Mar 11, 2017 North Carolina

    I think part of it is the neighborhood the brewery is in. I've noticed in Raleigh, as well as a few other cities in the US, if it's either a rough neighborhood, or just out of the way and there isn't much traffic after 10 pm, they close earlier than ones in better/busier areas.
     
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  17. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Breweries are also destination places and mostly for beer drinkers who appreciate the beer. So you plan around their hours, and I'm supposing you don't go there to get hammered, you can do that at the local shit hole chugging $1 PBRs. So there's really no reason to stay open late or even all day, and if lengthening their day was financially successful they would do so, especially for new start ups. But they don't because they don't need to do so, especially if they do Crowlers and Growlers.
     
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  18. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Exactly. Have a few, bring home a Crowler or two. I love how laid back my favorite breweries are.
     
  19. IronChef

    IronChef Initiate (109) Apr 22, 2018 North Carolina

    This is the perfect answer. Liquor/Alcohol laws are getting more highly enforced due to the increase in visibility and amount of breweries/beer in general. The after 8 pm crowd of drinkers (though not all) tend to lean more toward 'drink to get drunk' rather than sit and enjoy a pint. Breweries have a lot to lose and don't want to risk any sort of alcohol violation or riff-raff that could potentially cause any harm to the brewery (loss of license, liability of someone being over-served, drunk ass holes being drunk ass holes).
     
  20. hoptheology

    hoptheology Grand Pooh-Bah (5,379) May 12, 2014 South Dakota
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    Possibly to weed out the bar hoppers late at night, but I agree, 5pm up to 8pm is too early. Cigar City closed at 10, we only had about 30 minutes in the joint, that was disappointing. I'd say 11 or 12 is a good time to close, give people some time to arrive and relax a bit, but not much later than that. After all, it's a brewery not a bar, you're there to sample and purchase beer, not to get tanked on bulleit.
     
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