Why I will never try Bourbon County Stout...

Your kidding yourself if you think it's the company, and not the product that defines craft beer.

 

Or...why you will never enjoy a perfectly delicious beer.

 

Please explain what you mean by this. What other brewers have engaged in objectionable practices, beliefs etc. You can't make a statement like that without giving examples

 

I guess that depends on how you define craft beer now doesn't it?

 

So what you are saying is a business bought another business to make money? Sounds terrible to me and hopefully will leave more for me to buy. Amazing price for such an amazing beer. As long as they don't lower the quality I will continue to buy.

 

I just figured using plain English, as it's the dominant means of communication on this site.

Craft.
noun, plural crafts or for 5, 8, craft.
1.
an art, trade, or occupation requiring special skill, especially manualskill:

and
Beer
noun
1.
an alcoholic beverage made by brewing and fermentation fromcereals, usually malted barley, and flavored with hops and the like fora slightly bitter taste.

 

Oooh man. You did not just go there...

 

I must admit i did not know this before reading this thread. Though i pass on most of the GI beers i see on the shelf, i would still love to get my hands on BCBS and its variants. Call me what you like. Im just a man in seek of great beer.

-xICooRsYI

 

According to every widely accepted use of the term "craft beer," it is entirely the company, and not the beer, that defines it as a craft or a macro.

Budweiser could put out a Russian Imperial Stout branded simply as Budweiser RIS and sell ten million barrels of it. It could climb to the top spot on the charts. And it wouldn't be considered a craft beer by the traditional definition.

Meanwhile, a small unknown brewery could make an adjunct lager that tastes exactly like Busch Lite and sell a couple hundred barrels. And it'd be recognized as craft.

 

dibs on humuloner22 share.

 

I thought I would go by the Brewer's Association definition
figuring context is more important than abstract defintions

Craft Brewer Definition
The three pillars of the craft brewer definition remain the same; however, under the BA Board’s direction, some elements of each pillar have been modified to reflect the evolution within the industry. Specifically, the craft brewer definition now states:
An American craft brewer is small, independent and traditional.

• Small: Annual production of 6 million barrels of beer or less (approximately 3 percent of U.S. annual sales). Beer production is attributed to the rules of alternating proprietorships.
• Independent: Less than 25 percent of the craft brewery is owned or controlled (or equivalent economic interest) by a beverage alcohol industry member that is not itself a craft brewer.
• Traditional: A brewer that has a majority of its total beverage alcohol volume in beers whose flavor derives from traditional or innovative brewing ingredients and their fermentation. Flavored malt beverages (FMBs) are not considered beers.

 

I'm with you OP; I will most likely never have a BCB anything. However, that fact has nothing to do with any craft vs. non-craft issues caused by ownership. While I'd prefer to not give any money to big beer in lieu of supporting local/regional breweries, at the end of the day, taste reigns supreme.

All that being said, I'll never have [insert BCB anything] on my own volition because I refuse to pay well over $20 for 12 oz of ANY beer, period, not happening. Even if I had "disposable income" and was monetarily comfortable I still wouldn't buy it, just on principle alone. Plus, I refuse to go "whale hunting" to acquire ANY beer. To each his own, but that strikes me as ridiculous. I guess I'm just not that style of BA, and I suppose I just don't give that many shits about them walez.

You can have mine, too.

 

Well if how makes the beer doesn't matter...

 

I understand this concept, I am saying I disagree with it.

 

If I may ask, why does it sicken you? I can understand not wanting to purchase a product because you may disagree with the sales practices of the parent company, but BCBS was brewed well before InBev purchased Goose Island, and is still by all definitions a craft beer (unlike, for example, cleverly disguised products like Blue Moon). And I have to say: as much as I dislike InBev, BCBS remains an unquestionable pinnacle of the style, and you would be extremely hard pressed to find more than a small handful of beers to compete with it.

 

I also wasn't aware of this before this thread. I have been wanting to try BCBS but it also seems counter productive giving my money to BMC. It is certainly something to consider.

 

To be fair, you didn't so much say you disagree with it as say that everyone else who recognizes the definition is wrong and needs to be corrected.

 

it's an exaggeration, but the principle holds.

people are crazy / psychopathic if they truly would buy good beer "from anyone." you'd give a ********* $30 for a beer? you'd do business with someone who unjustly fired your best friend? you'd pay into a business that you know screws its workers (when you could easily support someone else who doesn't, for the same money, and get the same quality)?

that's just crazy and irresponsible. i mean, it's totally weird that people are so self-conscious and afraid of thinking that they recoil AGAINST the idea of caring where their money goes. giving the idea even a moment's thought should make a lot of people who post stuff like that feel ashamed of themselves.

i care where the stuff i buy comes from because i'm an adult and i don't like paying people like murderers, slave-owners, etc. it's like bizarre stockholm syndrome insanity to act otherwise.

 

Um, not sure where you are getting your numbers from, but BCBS was $5.50 per 12 oz.