Why is Dales Pale Ale considered a Pale Ale?

IMO it's delicious.

 

It's an IPA in everything other than name.

 

I ain't talkin about posi-trac i'm talking about Dales Pale Ale, how long were you drinking it before you realized it wasn't a Pale Ale?! Exactly how long?!

 

because as an IPA it blows, and as a pale ale its decent

 

Because the BJCP is (luckily) NOT the definitive authority and bible on beer styles, despite of what people around here somtimes treat it like?

 

So they left a word out. Big deal. They got 2/3 of the name and besides, in the big picture, aren't IPAs a subcategory of pale ales?

 

I still prefer it to their new IPA...which isn't bad, but Dale's is a classic.

 

Because they named it after a guy named Dale rather than a guy named Ty P. Shea.

 

Maybe they should change the name from Dales Pale Ale to Dales Malt Bomb Pale Ale?

Decent beer but too much malt for me...Pale Ale or India Pale Ale argument not withstanding...

 

Its delicious, I drink it no matter what they put on the label.

 

ipa fo' sho one of the earlier super hoppy beers i drank regularly way back when
and while i am thinking about it
mountain sun xxx pale strikes me as an ipa as well.........its just a name

 

I'm dating myself here, but I used to drive great lengths to get Dales...that was probably my first 'pilgrimage beer'. Driving over to NY state to find it...calling around to see where it was available. It was awesome beer...that came in a can!! It was a novelty for a while, taking it out on the trail or on a ski tour. Traveling out west to go skiing, it was a huge thing to have a friend from CO pick it up so we could enjoy a DPA at the end of the day. DPA & TenFIDY were the holy grail of beers for me for several years....then along came Heady...

Dales PA = IPA

 

Your problem is thinking that the BJCP is the be all end all definition of craft beer styles. Did you know that there is no longer any such thing as a Czech Pilsner according to them?

 

If it was the rhyme they were after, then they just should have made a Pale Ale! :-)

 

Style Guidelines are so blurred nowadays that it can be challenging to distinguish style A from style B (especially when it comes to hoppy ales).

 

In the Czech Republic the term “pilsner” is associated with a pale beer brewed solely in the town of Plzen (i.e., Pilsner Urquell).

A beer like Pilsner Urquell that is brewed outside of Plzen is called a Světlé (Pale) lager with another word following detailing the strength of the beer; for example Ležák for a beer of strength equivalent to Pilsner Urquell. So a ‘Czech Pilsner’ of strength like Pilsner Urquell that was not brewed in Plzen would be called a Světlé Ležák.

The BJCP style guidelines were updated to reflect how beer is referenced in the Czech Republic. The two pale lager styles are:

· Czech Pale Lager (a lower alcohol beer)

· Czech Premium Pale Lager (e.g., Světlé Ležák in the Czech language).

There is more information here which may be of interest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_the_Czech_Republic

Cheers!

 

I'm quite frankly surprised there are people who haven't had it.
Its a classic a la SNPA

 

Thanks for all of the information, I understand that in the Czech Republic the only beer that actually qualifies as a Czech Pilsner is Pilsner Urquell as it is brewed in Plzen, which is also why all the German breweries call their beers Pilsner style beers "Pils" instead of "Pilsner". But I still think in the US, when we say Czech Pilsner, we mean "a pilsner from the Czech republic" (previously Bohemian Pilsner in BJCP), and I don't see a big issue with that.

I do think we should respect labels from countries. So I am not a big fan of US breweries calling their sours "Lambics" (Lambic Style, or Lambic Inspired is ok). Or a Kölsch, which technically must be brewed in Cologne, so American Craft should use the term Kölsch Style out of respect. But that doesn't mean that Kölsch is not a beer style that doesn't exist.

My post was more aimed at the OPs assumption that BJCP defines beer styles. We can still use terms like Czech Pilsner as as style and understand what it means, even if it isn't a BJCP style. If someone says "I'm going to brew a Czech Pils!" We don't have to be smart-asses and say "Oh so you opened a brewery in Plzen then?"

 

I personally have no objections to you (or anybody else) using the term of "Czech Pilsner". I personally still call my homebrewed beer Bohemian Pilsner (hard to teach an old dog new tricks?).

My motivation for my post was simply to provide some more information on why the BJCP's terms changed for the updated BJCP style guidelines (2015).

From my participation on numerous BA threads I am convinced there is no way to obtain 100% agreement on beer terms and what specifically defines a given beer style.

Maybe we should use a variant of a Charlie Papazian mantra: Relax, Don't Worry, Have a Beer!

Cheers!

 

I guess I'm in the minority, but it tastes like a pale ale to me. Maybe because it's a little malt forward. I've had it often - it's been a pretty good go-to for me in the summer for cookouts, etc.