Why is this beer so expensive?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by buckeye1275, Dec 10, 2015.

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Then maybe they could have priced this beer even higher? As long as people like you buy the beer it can not be argued that the beer is over-priced.

    Frankly I was hoping that your answer would be "no" since there is zero incentive for the beer industry to lower the price of this beer as long as people like you are willing to pay the price.

    This message is not solely directed at you: the beer industry will continue to charge high prices as long as the beer geek market is willing to pay those high prices. They would be stupid to do otherwise.

    Cheers!
     
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  2. buckeye1275

    buckeye1275 Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2013 Delaware

    I understand. Not taking it personally. I am def part of the reason these beers are so expensive. I get caught in the hype and buy them.
     
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  3. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Yeah- and I'm sure we all have overpaid for beers that push our buttons. This one didn't push mine, so I did balk at the price and grabbed a Double Bastard instead.

    But if it had the word 'smoked' on the label...:wink::rolling_eyes:
     
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  4. ClavisAurea

    ClavisAurea Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2008 New York

    They're there for the protection of the beer. Haven't you heard of the Escondido Mafia? It's really an Army of Gargoyles at Stone HQ.
     
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  5. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,427) May 9, 2014 South Carolina
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    @StoneGreg might be able to explain better "why it's so expensive".
     
  6. ClavisAurea

    ClavisAurea Initiate (0) Jul 4, 2008 New York

    I haven't pulled the trigger on any in the 500ml bottle series but man is it tempting. I'll probably spring for the Box of Bastards. That just looks like a killer deal and I'm interesting in trying Depth Charged Double Bastard.
     
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  7. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I'd guess it "so expensive " because it still sells very well. If it didn't they wouldn't . So don't buy it.
     
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  8. Ri0

    Ri0 Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2012 Wisconsin

    I wonder what high priced beer could possibly pay for? Think about your job for comparison.

    For the brewery
    More equipment
    Better equipment - bottle dating for example
    Allow for expansion
    New beer

    For Employees
    Health Insurance
    Paid Time Off
    Retirement Savings

    Yes, low prices are great, but premium pricing can have other benefits.
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Another one for your list: increased profit solely for the brewery ownership.

    Cheers!
     
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  10. wejohnsn

    wejohnsn Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2007 Texas

    it takes time, labor,rent and utilities to produce....someone has to pay for it....they aint gonna give you a drink at a loss because you look good
     
  11. CassinoNorth

    CassinoNorth Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2013 New Jersey

    Breweries will continue to test the limits of what will we pay. See FiftyFifty Eclipse, Ballast Point six packs, Cascade Sours etc.

    Especially with something barrel aged or that isn't time sensitive, breweries care less about it maybe sitting for a month or two at high prices. There's a limit to what we'll pay, we just haven't gotten even close to finding out yet. See: BCBS Rare.
     
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  12. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,427) May 9, 2014 South Carolina
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    Also, how much of that beer leaks out and evaporates?
     
  13. SLOCruzin

    SLOCruzin Zealot (644) Sep 30, 2013 California
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    I don't buy any Eclipse (good but way overpriced), Cascade (mostly way too sour, the good ones are well over $40), and normally just grab singles of Ballast Point. Those are great examples of breweries that have gone too far and lost me. There are as good or better options out there for less money IMO.
     
  14. 2thm8ker

    2thm8ker Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2005 British Indian Ocean Territory

    Yes, being a smart ass! You bought it anyhow. That's why they get the asking price because you and most of the other price complainers still purchase it.
     
  15. JScoot

    JScoot Initiate (0) Aug 27, 2014 Louisiana

    Compared to wine and spirits the markup on beer is rather small.
     
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  16. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Well, it does have the word "char" in the flavor description. :wink:
     
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  17. Dr_Bahmbay13

    Dr_Bahmbay13 Pooh-Bah (1,751) Mar 10, 2013 Michigan
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    I don't know!? I DO KNOW! You could barrel age some PBR slap a 10.99 price tag on a 12 oz bottel and people would line up for it.
     
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  18. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Some additional things that I don't think anybody has mentioned yet.

    The description of the beer says that the barrels are first-use Kentucky Bourbon barrels.

    Since most (if not all) Bourbon distilleries sell their used barrels to a middleman rather than directly to a brewery, this would require additional time and labor costs beyond regular simple barrel aging as it would mean insuring that none of the barrels have been used for anything except Bourbon (e.g., Rye) and that this isn't the 2nd or 3rd batch of beer to be aged in those barrels. Not surprisingly first use barrels cost more--about $200 these days for first use barrels--than do 2nd use barrels (essentially free).

    The description would also mean that the barrels came from one or more Bourbon distilleries located in the state of Kentucky (not all Bourbon is distilled in Kentucky). So this means that somebody who gets a reasonable hourly would have to sort through a warehouse (probably in Lexington, KY) full of used Bourbon barrels to find, pull out, and load only these barrels suitable for re-use by brewers (not all first use barrles can be used by breweries) and get them on a truck to the Brewery.

    As noted before many times, more labor=higher prices.
     
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  19. stickboy1125

    stickboy1125 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2012 Virginia

    Do you think it should be selling for less? If so, why? The market is what dictates the price, people are buying it (you included) so until that changes, there is no reason to lower the price.
     
  20. buckeye1275

    buckeye1275 Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2013 Delaware

    I think people are missing my point, for the most part. I am not at all upset the beer is more expensive than regular DB. I totally understand why that's the case. But, yes, I do think it should be selling for less I think it should be around $11-12, not $20 as I've seen most often (a few places had it at $16). It just seems like a huge difference to me. Just wondering why this beer has such a large difference between the barrel-aged and the regular. I guess part of my questioning is that Stone beers are usually one of the fairest priced beers I see anywhere. Most of their bombers are $9 or less and even their barrel-aged AB in 6-packs was only $13. This is one of the reasons I love Stone, great beer at a great price. Just seems this one was marked-up more than usual.
     
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