Why Pale Ales?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by TheFlern, Oct 26, 2013.

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  1. TheFlern

    TheFlern Initiate (0) May 9, 2009 Idaho

    As I drink an offshoot of a pale ale from uinta I think to myself, why? Why did they bother brewing a session IPA? Instead of being something interesting it's just another bland hoppy beer with no backbone of malt. The hop profile isn't even all that unique in aroma or flavor.

    i appreciate low abv hop forward beers but do we really need every brewery in the U.S. brewing an IPA, IIPA, APA, and now a session IPA? At some point I'm wondering why they don't put their efforts into just expanding production of current beers or at least brewing something different from what they are already brewing.
     
  2. HopHead84

    HopHead84 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,268) Nov 29, 2006 California
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    No, we don't need any more bland hoppy beers. More good ones are always welcome, though.
     
  3. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    I suspect it's partly because of sites like this where almost all the chat and chatter are focused on some variant of the IPA. Becomes easy to think that's needed to compete. But locally we do see successful breweries introducing new beers on a semi-regular basis. One that comes easily to mind is Victory.
     
  4. TruePerception

    TruePerception Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    Because different people have different tastes, and different situations can call for difference responses to those tastes.
     
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  5. TheFlern

    TheFlern Initiate (0) May 9, 2009 Idaho

    Interesting because the number of IPA, IIPA, APA, and session IPAs begs to differ. It seems there is only one taste and that is hops + 2 row malt. Sorry for wanting something different. :sunglasses:
     
  6. fuhkyou

    fuhkyou Initiate (0) Feb 20, 2013 Idaho

    The masses can relate to IPA, and the ones who think it's too tasty will think, yeah, I can go for that session IPA, or the ones who have mastered it will think I'm macho enough to go for the double, or the black, or the brown, pink, green...
     
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  7. BostonHops

    BostonHops Initiate (0) Sep 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    Yep, only stands to reason that most breweries would follow the trends. (Also I'm pretty sure "bland" wasn't Uinta's goal.) Barrel aging is another example. 5 or 6 years ago it was essentially a novelty, then we had KBS and BCBS and soon it was all the rage... Now everyone is throwing beer in barrels. I don't necessarily think it's stifling creativity though, I see plenty of breweries trying new things.
     
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  8. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    It's not whether or not we "need" them, but whether or not brewers want to brew them.
     
  9. deeznuts420

    deeznuts420 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2013 Pennsylvania

    screw the session ipas just drink less of the reg. ipas. regular ipas are only a couple percent more so if u drink one less it's all the same, unless your drinking half a case at which point u shouldn't do ne thing
     
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  10. Asics

    Asics Pundit (941) Jul 28, 2012 Washington

    If the beer isn't good and people stop buying it, they will stop making it. On the other hand, if you see it again down the line you have your answer whether other people like it or not.
     
  11. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    MARKETING--news alert-- most people avoid IPAs. Although these chat boards are practically devoted to them, a lot of people don't want them and pale ales are as far they go. For the opposite reasons, IPA lovers are a devoted group do want an option that keeps them from falling asleep at 4pm but like the extra bite that pale ales typically avoid--session IPA. You are correct that there really is huge overlap but brewers are answering a demand and don't care if there is overlap if they are generating sales.

    I love Recreation from Terrapin. I am impressed with the new offerings.

    I think you will see less pale ale offerings from startups. Who wants or can compete with SNPA? Probably not the first thing you will reach for from the local guy/gal.
     
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  12. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Pooh-Bah (1,571) May 13, 2007 South Carolina
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    Because if breweries don't come up with new beers all the time, people on beer websites like this will be posting comments such as "What's up with Brewery X? They never brew anything new." or "Brewery X is so boring. They haven't updated their lineup in, like, forever."
     
  13. solo103

    solo103 Initiate (0) Apr 8, 2012 Florida

    Hop Odyssey from GreenFlash is a good session IPA.
     
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  14. MarshMan71

    MarshMan71 Initiate (0) Jul 17, 2012 Illinois

    Variety is the spice of life .... Drink what you like, Let them brew what they like for the rest of us.
    I personally love session IPA's if im starting early or just going to pound beer all afternoon. sure beats
    resorting to the alternative, BMC
     
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  15. chimneyjim

    chimneyjim Zealot (522) Jun 23, 2004 Oregon

    Sorry you can't find something different. You are apparently not looking. There is undoubtedly more variety of beer available to most of us today than ever before.
     
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  16. jeffthecheff

    jeffthecheff Initiate (0) Jul 23, 2008 Connecticut

    I think uinta's pale is 4% because of the ABV restrictions in Utah.
     
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  17. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    brew a bitter its really all the same thing, varies due to ABV.....
     
  18. paymerick

    paymerick Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2013 Texas

    Because you're drinking it, that's YPA..

    Unita 1, You 0.
     
  19. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    That's apparently the maximum abv that Utah will allow in supermarkets, and I think Uinta does a great job with its 4.0 beers, especially re: their Baba Black Lager.
     
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  20. wpqx

    wpqx Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2013 Illinois

    Allow me to chime in. I work at a bar that has roughly 500 bottles of beer and 50 tap handles. We have pretty much a pale ale or pale lager from every brewery we carry anything from. Most of these sit on the shelf collecting dust until someone who doesn't have taste buds mercifully orders one. Of those 500 beers there's maybe about 5 imperial stouts, so let that sink in a bit.

    Our tap list has also gone to shit but that's just me being a disgruntled employee. To get back to what TheFlern said, I can't figure out why every brewery needs to make at least one boring beer in a boring style. I'm grateful that there's breweries like Pipeworks, Dogfish Head, and Russian River etc. that largely ignore this crap.
     
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