Why the Light IPAs?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by sjverla, Mar 28, 2013.

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  1. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (2,193) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    I would prefer to drink a beer that was brewed to be full flavored and happens to be lower in ABV (bitters, milds, pale ales, etc.), than a beer that was brewed to be low in ABV and flavor (light IPA). Goose Island Honker's, Fuller's London Pride, NG Moon Man, 21st Amendment Bitter American, and basically everything from Notch fit the bill when I want to step outside of my usual IPA heavy rotation (although Moon Man is only when visiting family in WI). I would drink Coniston Blue Bird as well if it wasn't so damn expensive.
     
  2. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada Initiate (0) May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    because beer marketers figured out a new way to sell you idiots pale ales and have you pay more for them
     
  3. Leebo

    Leebo Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 Massachusetts

    You mean like the new founders all day ipa @ 4.7 %. Or the new Wachusett light IPA. Or all the releases from Notch Brewing, American session beers.
     
  4. beerborn

    beerborn Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2012 Louisiana

    1/2 big boy beer + some water = your beer.
     
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  5. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    If you want to avoid getting too buzzed on high abv IPAs try this: Instead of drinking 6 @ 4% abv one after the other, try drinking 3 @ 8% abv with 1/2 hour and some water in between each beer. And you'll probably save some money.
     
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  6. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    It's not about buzzed. It's about the style. I just want to see more Milds and Bitters and stuff like that. I get that it's not popular but if there's this trend towards session beers why do they all have to be hop-focused? Aside from the obvious.

    If they're going to make a low ABV session beer, don't just make another pale ale.
     
  7. ericj551

    ericj551 Pooh-Bah (1,638) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)
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    I think English Mild is a great style and definitely has it's place, but the "session" IPA is distinct in its appeal to me. I agree that pricing is tough, I don't want to pay the same for a bottle of 7% IPA and a bottle of 4.5% IPA, but I can imagine the overall cost is pretty similar to the brewery.

    I know that they are pretty similar to pale ales, but I think that session IPA implies less malt and more focus on the hops than a typical pale ale. More and more I am starting to buy the argument that the term "session" should be used for beers closer to 4% and below. I'm not as firm about this as some, but I think it's ridiculous to call anything over 5% a session beer on the label.
     
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  8. mychalg9

    mychalg9 Pooh-Bah (2,123) Apr 8, 2010 Illinois
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    I suspect they do low ABV IPA's so they can still justify the $10 sticker price. But look at all the hops we had to use!
     
  9. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Notice how no one complains that Goose Island IPA (6% abv) and Honker's (4.2% abv) are the same price? Or that Sierra Nevada Torpedo (7.2% abv) and Kellerweis (4.8% abv) are the same price?

    At least I remember them being similar in pricing.

    You're paying for quality beer, not to get hammered. Well, I am at least.
     
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  10. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    Excellent point. And I can get those for 8.99 which I think it totally reasonable. And I realize that Honker's is one option. I want more options.
     
  11. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Levitation is under 5% and it's the same price as Stone IPA at 6.9%. I don't have a problem with that and don't think beer should be priced by ABV alone. Difficulty and cost of production should be the primary considerations of pricing.

    That being said, I love levitation because it's hoppy and sessionable. We definitely need more beers like that. I may take a shot at making something both hoppy and sessionable fairly soon.
     
  12. Nectar

    Nectar Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2013 New Jersey

    Yards brawler is very flavorful. One of my go-to session beers.

    All Day IPA in cans this summer though!
     
  13. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    No, I don't think he does. There are a couple of regional breweries in the Seattle area making +/- 4% abv IPAs that are just as hoppy as the 6% versions. A beer can be low abv and still be highly hopped, low abv doesn't make it a Pale.
     
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  14. Zhiguli

    Zhiguli Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2012 California

  15. penniwisdom

    penniwisdom Crusader (498) Sep 10, 2010 California

    It's all about the hop bursting in these session IPAs. That's what differentiates between a Pale and a Session IPA. If you double dry hop a 4.5% beer and throw 3lbs/barrel at it, it's far juicier with hops than a straight up pale. It's all about throwing tons and tons of flavor/aroma hops from the 10 minute to 0 minute mark on these.

    Uinta Wyld and Drakes 1500 are perfect for this.
     
  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    But most US beer drinkers have an expectation that an IPA would have higher alcohol levels. The definition of an IPA from the Brewers Association (how beers are judged at the Great American Beer Festival) states: “Alcohol by Volume:6.3-7.5%”

    Cheers!
     
  17. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    I'm asking for a break from the hops. I'm asking for an American brewer to use less hops in one beer that's low abv. The American Mild if you will. This is what I want.
     
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  18. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (2,193) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    You have it, Notch Session Ale and Cerne Pivo.
     
  19. THANAT0PSIS

    THANAT0PSIS Pooh-Bah (2,275) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin
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  20. ChrisLohring

    ChrisLohring Initiate (0) Jan 25, 2010 Massachusetts

    First paragraph, yes. Second paragraph, no. Unfortunately.
     
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