Widmer pub is closing

Discussion in 'Northwest' started by honkduh, Jan 22, 2019.

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  1. honkduh

    honkduh Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2011 Oregon

    Dear Widmer Brothers Friends and Family,

    We are sad to announce that the Widmer Brothers pub will close its doors to the public today. This was a very hard decision to make, especially as we reflect on the pub’s past and plan an exciting future for the brewery, where our team will continue to brew your favorite Widmer Brothers beers.

    Unfortunately, despite our best efforts to evolve the pub concept over the years, our pub has experienced profitability challenges. When the pub first opened in 1996, there were only a handful of breweries in the city. Today, there are over 115 breweries in the Portland Metro area. With that increased competition, we have struggled to make the pub financially sustainable.

    While the pub closes today, we want to make sure you know that our dedicated team will continue bringing you your favorite Widmer Brothers beers. In fact, we plan to launch new beers in cans this year courtesy of a canning line installed late last year. We’ll also offer a revamped brewery tour debuting at Zwickelmania in mid-February, where you’ll be able to check out the new canning line, and both our production brewery and small-batch innovation brewery. Our retail store will remain open, as well.

    This note wouldn’t be complete without thanking our pub customers for 22+ years of support – we wouldn’t have made it this long without you.

    We also want to send our sincere thanks to our pub and banquets team for their passion and commitment to Widmer Brothers over the years. With this closure, two of our full-time staff will be staying with us in new roles, and seven employees will be leaving the company. We are providing departing employees with comprehensive severance packages.

    Endings are never easy, but we hope you’ll continue to be a fan and enjoy our beers in the future.
     
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  2. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,954) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    Weren't these beers pretty much only available at their pub?
     
  3. Redrover

    Redrover Grand Pooh-Bah (3,676) Jan 18, 2003 Illinois
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    I went there a couple of times. Always enjoyed it, but with so many other options, it was never a serial repeater for me. Best of luck to the employees!
     
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  4. weaverr

    weaverr Zealot (729) Jun 10, 2008 California

    I can't imagine how they thought they could sustain patronage while removing the restaurant component of their pub. I'm disappointed they aren't keeping a tasting room open just for the tour aspect and maybe to do innovation brewery flights.
     
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  5. ppilot

    ppilot Zealot (522) Jul 17, 2009 Oregon

    So this basically removed the last local presence Widmer had in the city of Portland, which is really sad. I actually liked their Pilot Brewery as the beers were actually pretty good, but there's a good chance I never drink a Widmer Beer again just because they will never be in the places were I drink beer.
     
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  6. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    My reaction is similar to @ppilot. Have a lot of good memories about visits to the pub (used to go to their Oktoberfest event, years ago), but on the other hand, it's been years since I was last over there, and years since I ordered a Widmer beer (haven't had one since moving back to Oregon in 4/13. Really hard to imagine a situation where I'd be likely to order a Widmer beer in PDX these days.
     
  7. qthompso

    qthompso Initiate (0) Apr 24, 2010 Oregon

    I certainly understand what you're getting at but to be clear, all Widmer beer you'll see on shelf or on tap is still going to be brewed at the same Portland brewery. Yes, there won't be a taproom location to visit but you're still going to see Widmer all over town and Oregon.
     
  8. distantmantra

    distantmantra Pooh-Bah (2,954) May 23, 2011 Washington
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    Did the small batch stuff leave the pub previously?
     
  9. ppilot

    ppilot Zealot (522) Jul 17, 2009 Oregon

    I barely saw Widmer outside of the taproom and the only things I have seen were collaborations with other breweries. In general beer bars just don't have CBA beers on tap and so this is going to turn them into InBev, but with a Northwest Flair.
     
  10. ppilot

    ppilot Zealot (522) Jul 17, 2009 Oregon

    Basically no with the exception of special events.
     
  11. vurt

    vurt Grand Pooh-Bah (4,504) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    I was over there a couple weekends ago to try their version of Resilience, my first visit in over a year and probably closer to two.

    I've had Widmer beers a few times at Providence Park. Their Hefe is a nice quencher on those afternoons which are too hot and humid for an IPA.

    Apart from that, I don't seek their beers out. But I don't think of them as "InBev with an NW flair" just yet either.
     
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  12. qthompso

    qthompso Initiate (0) Apr 24, 2010 Oregon

    I'd agree but beer bars weren't their bread and butter. Their core clientele aren't going to beer bars but the folks going to beer bars couldn't see past the aged, mainstream branding. It was an uphill battle from the start and clearly they couldn't change public perception amongst the most active local taproom customer base.
     
  13. ppilot

    ppilot Zealot (522) Jul 17, 2009 Oregon

    I would say they actually participate in the local beer community very little even when compared to Breweries like 10 Barrel. I was talking with some industry people people and it sounds like they are going to just to try canning off the pilot system and just not even bother with draft for the most part. What's crazy is that this plan runs counter to everything the market has shown to be successful the last couple years.

    Widmer's struggles had nothing to do with branding and everything to do with poor business decisions resulting from the failure to keep up with market trends. Their one off beers available at the Pub were always the exception to that rule.
     
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  14. qthompso

    qthompso Initiate (0) Apr 24, 2010 Oregon

    I guess I use the term branding to describe everything that they put out there to address the very market trends you mention (e.g. styles, advertising, promotional activity, etc.). We're arguing the same point. They couldn't react appropriate and ultimately paid for it with the pub.
     
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  15. weaverr

    weaverr Zealot (729) Jun 10, 2008 California

    Same here. The craft beer stand at Providence Park seems to be 90% IPAs usually and that's not what I want when standing outside in the sun for hours in the summer. The Hefe works great for this.
     
  16. derftron

    derftron Pooh-Bah (1,663) Feb 8, 2012 Oregon
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    havent been to the pub in a while, but this is where i first got into craft beer. I remember trying all sorts of new styles that were pub-only releases. Black sour beers, mead, barleywines, etc. On warm sunny days, I enjoyed sitting outside.

    with so much competition, no surprised they shut down. Honestly, they needed a bigger space for guests.
     
  17. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Same here.

    I know this may sound silly, but what kept me away was the location. I always liked the food there and their pub only beer selections (some of which were quite excellent I thought), but as time went on convenience became more and more of a factor. The pub isn't really close to my home or office, and it really isn't out by anything I tend to frequent.

    I mean it really isn't more than an extra 5 or 10 minute drive from places like Tin Bucket, Upright or Wayfinder (for example), but even so, why bother to make that extra 5 minute drive when the alternatives are at least as good if not better than what I could find over at Widmer? So I just stopped going.
     
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  18. Lone_Freighter

    Lone_Freighter Initiate (0) Jun 4, 2017 Vermont

    Have never been in the pub, but have had many of their beers. After finding out that Craft Brewing Alliance is 40% owned by AB/InBev, I stopped buying their beer. Only beer I ever see here in Vermont is their hefeweizen in bottles. However, come to think of it, I haven't seen any of their beers with the past year.
     
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  19. I_h8_clowns

    I_h8_clowns Initiate (0) May 31, 2018 Oregon

    From what I heard on the news...the loss of a marketing presence was consquential if the closure of the pub has the potential to improve their bottom line and boost their asking price if AB InBev exercises their option to increase their ownership of CBA from 32% to 100%. I think the story on OPB radio said their arrangement with CBA allows them to purchase the whole enchilada this year or next if they choose to do so.
     
  20. Reidrover

    Reidrover Grand Pooh-Bah (4,886) Jan 14, 2003 Oregon
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    Doesnt make sense how does the closing of the pub improve market presence?
    OK in just a manufacturing supervisor..but that sounds dumb as f&&k
     
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