Will camouflage packaging save Bud Light?

I think a lot of us can agree on that point. The funny thing for me about this whole fiasco is that I’m not actually philosophically behind the boycotts OR the company.

 

No more odd than, say, dragging a NJ senator into the discussion. Wouldn’t you agree?

 

soo much this

 

Eh, I wouldn't say a change in valuation is indicative of a collapse by any means. From what I gathered in the news about the takeover Elon has plans to radically overhaul the platforms business model and according to these marketing folks their user base is robust and projected to grow.

The Twitter boycots remind me of the lefts version of the bud light boycots.

You've got to realize you were probably the most politically and personally aggressive poster at the tail end of the other thread, right? Do you think that continuing that kind of antagonistic engagement here is going to produce anything of value?

 

I was commenting specifically on Ted Cruz after he jumped into the issue. The other poster was more personal from my perspective. I mean, even my Republican friends think he’s a turd. But to answer your question, no I don’t. But I don’t think his response to Cavedave was either, so it didn’t really matter to me.

 

To each their own—I don’t think the situations are similar at all. Musk tweeted or retweeted some seriously disgusting right-wing, conspiracy theory BS a few months ago (I forget specifically what because since then he’s only gone further down the rabbit hole) and I figured the only power I had to respond was to delete my account. I haven’t regretted it for a second.

 

If you just want to vent then go for it, I guess. But that doesn't accomplish much except make you look irate. Anyone who disagrees with you is shutting off their comprehension the second you start name calling. You could express your dislike of the man, or better yet the specific initiative that was brought up, without the name calling and without lashing out at someone who disagrees with your take and you might have a conversation on your hands instead of joining your "opponent" in retrenchment in your preexisting biases

 

C'mon now this is probably just their way of disguising the product from the wrath of Kid Rock and those bags under his eyes that need a luggage rack for all that nonsense.

 

One of my favorite public people said something that applies to me in cases like this. “I have the right to remain silent…I just don’t have the ability”. I don’t come to BA looking for political discourse, but when I find it I have to engage.

 

“Seriously disgusting” sounds awful, but I’m guessing we’ll probably never get to decide for ourselves because you forgot specifically what it was, and whether he directly tweeted it or retweeted it.
I’ve been a fisherman for decades. Over the years there have been fish stories about the one that got away, or the whopper that was caught but no evidence was brought forth. Currently the comeback is “pics, or it didn’t happen”.
Regarding your reference to “seriously disgusting” stuff (tweeted or retweeted by Elon Musk....we're not really sure?), I’ll respectfully suggest, “links, or it didn’t happen”.
I’m interested in learning what Musk said that you find seriously disgusting.

I’m not convinced there is power in conceding your voice. If you were so incensed, you could have tagged him (or whatever the Twitter equivalent is) or DM'd him. Ya never know.........he might have responded, and maybe even given you reason to think a bromance of reconciliation was in the offing.

Good on you! (aka Cheers!)


Regarding whether camo packaging will save Bid Light, I think it will have little impact in the long run.

 

Well, Bud Light was fizzy yellow water before all this latest kerfuffel and in the end, it is still fizzy yellow water. Whatever package it is placed in makes no difference.

 

You mean like this?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...iness/musk-tweet-pelosi-conspiracy/index.html

https://apnews.com/article/twitter-...ading-claims-c297797d1eb0f708cc84d05e0735d8cc

I mean that took me...oh 2 minutes. Yeah he's a billionaire and also a bad person. Shocking.

And yeah, "everything" is political. The distributor not marketing certain items to black neighborhoods? Political. Founder's nonsense. Political. Brewers being misogynist. Political. Heck even arguments over treatment of hazy IPAs by distributors is political, in so far as distro is even a thing!

 

Q.E.D.

 

You'll notice that I didn't quote you, direct my post at you, or request that you speak for @draheim, who was ambiguous (and frankly seemingly unsure) about what Musk said that @draheim found "seriously disgusting".

 

Very, very close to the truth!

 

Well here are just a few items to consider.

1. I don’t need to justify deactivating my Twitter account to anyone. It was a personal decision based on an actual tweet or retweet posted by Musk that put me over the line. I’m not asking for permission or approval for a choice that affects only me.
2. Because I’m not on Twitter I probably can’t access whatever it was (I never followed Musk to begin with, I read a story about it elsewhere, but it was documented)—but again, see item 1 above. It was widely reported at the time (probably February or March). I’m 53 years old, I have a lot of things to keep track of, and my memory isn’t what it used to be. It’s not like Musk isn’t known for making broadly outrageous statements—this particular one was just beyond the pale. I’m not making it up and I’m sure it’s documented.
   
3. I didn’t deactivate my account to concede my voice. I did it because every person on Twitter, by their very membership, gives the platform that much more power and influence. By withdrawing from it, I am denying them one more account, one more individual they can claim access to. I didn’t do this as part of a boycott or movement, it was a decision I made by myself, on the spot, when I saw something about what he had tweeted that I found especially offensive and harmful.
   
4. As I said, I’ve never tweeted, or tagged, or DM’d (or whatever) in my life. There is no point to that. I had almost zero use for Twitter before Musk took over (likewise Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, and all the rest) and it went into negative territory shortly after he did.
   
5. If it’s really that important to you, let me know and I will try to figure out which of Musk’s many offensive, childish, untrue, misinformed, and/or conspiracy theory laden tweets it was that set me off. Just know that I’m not making it up, but again, this is not that far-fetched. I’m also (by far) not the only person to have left Twitter since Musk bought it.

Cheers!

 

When a political party makes a boycott of a company part of its public mission statement, and then publicly retracts it and deletes mentions of it, hard to make any ancillary effects from such shenanigans less than political, even on a site that tries to stay apolitical. Anything that happens, beerwise or otherwise, is colored with politics in this particular discussion, it just is.

 

@draheim, Thank you for your reply.

I didn't intend/suggest that you justify deactivating your Twitter account to me or anyone else. It just seemed odd that something “seriously disgusting” couldn’t be remembered. I genuinely wondered if it was something specific that pushed you over the line. Evidently not, or at least not something eventful enough to remember.

Whippersnapper......few peoples memories are what they used to be at your/our age.

It's not.

 

When you said “we’ll probably never get to decide for ourselves” it seemed to indicate that you were reserving the right to pass judgment on my decision. And “seriously disgusting” might have been a poor choice of words and, in all honesty, it might not have even been a tweet at all but some kind of policy change or public statement he made. I honestly don’t remember, but again, whatever it was it was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Google something like “Elon Musk controversial statements” and take your pick. It was political in nature, that much I’m sure about. The man has a lot of influence and power, and he isn’t using it responsibly. I just don’t want anything to do with it.

 

Less about passing judgement and more a curiosity of what might have caused you arrive at your decision, since your stated reason was initially only as specific as something Musk might or might not have tweeted/retweeted, and (now) some kind of policy change or public statement.

Folks are prone (and rightfully so) to make assessments based on information provided. In the end, it sounds as if it’s some kind of cumulative and nebulous dislike/disdain for Elon Musk, based in part (or fully?) on your perception of what he now represents.