Without Craft Beer

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by rtrasr, Feb 3, 2015.

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  1. Doctor_Bogenbroom

    Doctor_Bogenbroom Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I'd still be drinking imports, but yes, variety is definitely the spice of life!
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    That one is easy: Habbersett!!

    http://www.habbersettscrapple.com/

    Habbersett Scrapple and Troegs Dreamweaver Wheat (Hefeweizen)!! YUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Cheers!
     
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  3. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    Without craft I would not have a stick to beat CAMRA with.
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do you speak softly!?!:wink:

    Cheers!
     
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  5. rtrasr

    rtrasr Savant (1,032) Feb 16, 2009 Arkansas

    Again, Hefeweizen wasn't readily available in Arkansas in the 70's and 80's. Take note where the people are located when they say they had access to these imported beers.
     
  6. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Sounds like I need to visit AR then
     
  7. pnelting

    pnelting Pundit (901) Nov 17, 2014 Texas

    I can't wrap my mind around such a scenario. :confused:
     
  8. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Agreed.

    I too can't speak to the accessability of either imports or locals in Arkansas, either then or now, but when I reflect on bacherhood travels in rural areas of states such as North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Kentucky or early post marital travels in rural or semi-rural areas of Illinois, Indiana (especially southern Indiana) and Michigan. I have no trouble sympathizing with the OPs perception that most all of that stuff was unavailable to him until relatively recently with the growth in popularity of beers from breweries other than BMC. As some are fond of pointing out, what matters is not reality but our perception of reality. :slight_smile:
     
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  9. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Naturally I'd expect a Pennsyvania Homer to say something like that. But to get the best scrapple you really need to get to the true source and get your scrapple at one of the farmer's markets someplace like Bird-in-Hand, Paradise or Intercourse. Those Amish are the only ones who really truly understand the right ways to use all of the pig except for the squeal. :slight_smile:

    Puts Habersett, Rapa, Arnolds and especially Dietz & Watson to shame any day of the week.
     
  10. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Where did you visit in SC? There has been a Green's package store in Columbia, Greenville, and even Myrtle Beach since the 80s, and they carried pretty much all of the beers I mentioned. Of course there has always been tons of BMC around here...and likely will be for years (and years and years) to come.
     
  11. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    I only hope that Jack doesn't feel as strongly about his local scrapple as he does about his local German-style beers. Otherwise he might not take too kindly to your "recommendations." :wink:
     
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  12. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Well this was probably the early 80s and pretty much small towns and rural or semi-rural areas. One that stands out in memory is Hartsville (IIRC about midway between Florence and the Sand Hills State Forest). There were a few really cute girls there at Coker college and there also seemed to be a shortage of eligible males, so we were motivated to look for beverages that would create a positive impression. Big cities like Greenville-Spartanbur areas or Columbia weren't on the agenda. :slight_smile: (Myrtle Beach? Naw, that was for the city slickers who wore their preppy clothes and drove fancy cars.... :slight_smile: )
     
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  13. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Well, Hartsville is a good example, as you can now get a decent assortment of "craft" beer even down there. Of course having the Sonoco factory in town does bring an international element to an otherwise very rural area.
     
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  14. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    As I think I've suggested earlier, that international element as a result of having a small company or a college in the town seems to me to be critical to the differences between some locations and others in shaping whats available in the way of restaurant food and beverages. Even today driving though places like southern Indiana or PA outside of Philly or Pittsburgh you can almost always identify the towns that have a College, a successful business headquarters, or are the county seat by their level of visible economic health. Similarly, having been to Atlanta a few times I can understand why some of my associates say "Atlanta? That’s not really part of Georgia." (And I've heard the same thing said about Charleston, SC.)
     
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  15. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Pooh-Bah (1,700) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    Amen, brother... LOL
     
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  16. Chaz

    Chaz Grand Pooh-Bah (3,668) Feb 3, 2002 Minnesota
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    There you go again, trying to bring historical facts into a modern day context!
    No Sour? And I'd wager that they didn't even have an attached mini-golf course or video game arcade. FAIL!

    P.S. Without Craft Beer I'd be drinking a pasteurized regional Bock from a returnable bottle --just like in the old days. :grimacing:
     
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  17. ChurchofPayton

    ChurchofPayton Initiate (0) Oct 16, 2014 Massachusetts

    Without craft beer neckbeards wouldn't have a place like this on the internet to go and argue with other neckbeards.:wink:
     
  18. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    It’s all good.

    Lots of high quality Pennsylvania brewed German style beers and lots of high quality Scrapple to pick from.

    Life is good!!!!!!:slight_smile:

    Cheers!
     
  19. LuskusDelph

    LuskusDelph Initiate (0) May 1, 2008 New Jersey

    And YOU forgot Jim Robertson. I think his books in the '70s were the first ones ever published to examine, evaluate, and describe beer from a critical point of view. I'm relatively certain that his books predate any of Michael Jackson's!
     
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  20. LuskusDelph

    LuskusDelph Initiate (0) May 1, 2008 New Jersey

    Actually, Pabst Bock was really not such a bad brew at all (at least until the late '70s, anyway). Probably the best of the American bocks of the time, in my opinion.
     
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