WL 644 isn't Brett??!!

I just brewed Christmas day and used this yeast. It was a simple pale ale that I will dry hop. Some of the experiences here is exactly what I want. A nice aromatic pale ale young developing into a mild funky wild ale in the bottle over time. Does anyone here have any idea on how many volumes of co2 you can expect after bottling from this yeast? I usually primary for 3 weeks then bottle. I was thinking to let this one go 5 weeks then bottle. Bottle bombs are no fun.

 

If you used this as your primary yeast it will act very similar to a regular sach strain. You can bottle with your normal amount of priming sugar and not worry about bombs.

 

Kind of... It can take a little longer than basic Sacc to finish and can get a little dryer. I had a keg that continued to over carb after packaging while in the fridge. @hoptualBrew stated in another thread that his experience with this strain above 1.050 OG can take 3-5 weeks to fully attenuate.

 

Thanks

I figured to dry hop at 4 bottle at 5. 1 volume certainly sounds reasonable. The bubbles from the air lock smell great.

 

Right, I guess what I meant was that once it was at terminal gravity it wouldn't continue to super attenuate in the bottle (based on what I've read) .

 

That's not a pellicle, that is the krausen that has not fallen yet. You are not doing any favors to your beer by taking the lid off like that, introducing tons of oxygen. You need to let the krausen fall before it will be fully attenuated.

 

So, if this isn't Brett, does that mean it doesn't require more time for a starter? I ask, because I'm considering changing my plans for this weekend, and brewing up an IPA with 644...but I won't be able to do more than a 72 hr starter.

 

I added the vial to a 1L starter and let it go for less than 3 days. I just pitched the starter. Activity started at about 12 hrs and by 18 was screaming along. I have heard of a lag between two bouts of activity with this yeast, but a normal starter seemed to work fine for me.

 

I've been doing a 2 day starter with this yeast with good results. Brett or not...I like it a lot...

 

@psnydez86 , next time you can primary with the Saison strain and cold crash and rack off sacch to keg with Brett and let condition at ferment temp. Ive had interesting results with Trois under pressure like this.

 

Might try that myself.. hit it with some co2 and let it ride in a warm garage this spring.

 

That is an interesting comment. I just tapped a keg of a rye saison that used Belle Saison for the primary, I have a keg of the same beer that I pitched a small amoutn of 644 at kegging time, been in the basement for ~3 months now. The basic saison is quite nice, but not Dupont Now I have high hopes for the 644 version. I'll have to make sure to compare the 2 beers before I finish the basic one.

 

Just bought another vial...I'm afraid White Labs will pull it due to the controversy...This yeast is great in pale ales and IPAs...

 

John, did you end up only doing a 72 hour starter on this? I'm curious how that will work. I see others posted not doing the usual week long buildup of a starter. I used this once for primary and did a 2-step starter of a 500 into a 1.5L over the course of a week. I got great attenuation and loved the beer. I have a vial now I was going to use on an IPA in a couple of weeks. I just didn't know if I could be lazy and cut down on the starter time. I'd appreciate any reporting back you could do if you did end up with a shorter starter.

 

I wasn't able to brew this weekend. I'll be doing this brew on the 17-18 this month. I'm going to go ahead an plan on allowing for a longer than normal starter, and I'll just monitor the activity to decide when it's time to remove from the stir-plate.