Wolves & People

Like I said...you're spoiled. No one accepts things that don't meet their expectations. That said, not everyone has the lofty expectations you guys do, because most places aren't smack dab in the middle of what may be the most prominent region in the United States for brewing beer. Know what I mean? So spoiled, yes. Your native beer is so good, that places widely regarded around the country are just another brewery for you. If you don't think you guys are spoiled, you're out of your gourd. PA is spoiled in its own way. We have arguably the best distribution of any state in the country. Most places that distribute out of their home state, ship here. So in some regards we're lucky that many great breweries out of state are essentially locals to us.

 

And people wonder "why doesn't Shelton send us more beer." Uhh ... do we have an answer here? I'd bet that both the stores and the distributer look at this and know not to send the 12 oz bottles that sell for $10+ when local, very well regarded beer at similar price points is sitting on the shelves. Seems like they - and the stores that order for them - are just doing what the market tells them to do. Funky Gold Mosaic would probably be a $13 500ML so it's in the ballpark of these (higer rated, for what that's worth) bottles that people aren't buying.

It's also interesting that we see Cascade bottles sitting around for a long time and Ale Apoth bottles sitting round for a couple months as a sign of pricing disfunction. What if Colgate priced toothpaste so low that it flew off the shelves and you had to drive around hoping you could find some or you were incentivized to buy a ton and horde it? Or you had to buy a Toyota to trade for a Ford from a different state because all the Toyotas in your region sold out? Kind of absurd examples, though funny to imagine, but I think people will get the point.

Premium product priced so that it is available for a while is probably a sign, at least in the case of Ale Apothecary, that they're pricing things correctly!

 

They say on the page that renewals will be $315 so it looks like they're pricing in a $35 charitable donation. ;-)

 

Wait so let me get this straight. You are from the east coast and you know how good beer is in Oregon.


Team, we got to kill this guy before he gets the word out.

 

We'll just send him into Geno's wearing a Pat's T-shirt.

Or, dress him as Santa at an Eagles game.

 

You forgot to mention we Pacific Northwest folks are collectively critical, cynical, vocal, and maybe a bit passive aggressive. You could start a thread about De Garde and people will find something to bitch about.

Oh, wait - that already happened: too many sweaty dudes packed in a warehouse.

 

Speak for yourself. As a native Upstate New Yorker, I am certainly Assertive-Aggresive.

 

lol You're on a website comprised of arguable the most beer savvy people on the face of God's green earth. There's an enormous trading community here. And I personally live in one of the most beer mad cities in existence. Yeah...we know how good beer in Oregon is. Cascade, Ale Apothecary, Logsdon, De Garde, The Commons, Block 15, Hair of the Dog, Pelican, etc. These aren't exactly secrets 'round here.

 

Dude...I've lived here since 1992. I can tell you two things....both Geno's and Pat's suck but are perfectly acceptable places to eat when you're fucked up. And...anyone that goes to an Eagles game dressed in anything other than Eagles gear should be prepared to be treated like the world's biggest asshole, by the world's biggest assholes.

 

For those wondering this was posted to the crowd funding page today:

"The first six beers reserved for Cellar Society members will be released only to members and be served at select special events, i.e. private beer dinners and a festival or two (there won’t be much to go around). The second six will be released to Cellar Society members at least one month before going on sale in the tasting room and possibly another retail location or two (as well as certain events). Either way, Cellar Society members are granted first dibs to many of our first releases. Thanks for your support!"

Sounds like @Snowshoes was right on with his assumption that some would be exclusive

 

Don't try to distract us with facts!

 

See....I'm cool with this. I enjoy these memberships as much for the fact I'm guaranteed product without standing in line at a release, having to trade, or having to live within a certain geographic area. If it happens to be exclusive to to me matters not. It's not a dick swinging contest...it's about having access to beer you may never otherwise have access to. I'm all about dibs.

 

Well, those are clearly two extremes. No one selling a commodity product like toothpaste would consider it a good thing if they had a year's backlog of product sitting in warehouses.

 

Hey....no need to be a dick.

 

Can't tell you about your market, but in CA, cascade has always been on the higher priced side. An increase in price this past year to distribution plus the appearant extra supply due to no more online sales have caused them to be shelf turds here now. That and Be Still was absolutely horrible (sorry needed to fit that in somewhere).

 

I'm kind of surprised with this additional information, the last 5 or 6 memberships didn't sell.

 

On a related note: http://fortune.com/2014/10/24/crowd...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

 

These posts are like short stories! Lol. I'm not a fan of having another brewery doing national distro. Why not make the beer at first for the locals then move into distro. I'm fine with them doing a membership, works for the bruery. Though they don't ship their really sought after stuff like CR, BT, GM... Time will tell if the prices are worth it and i may be kicking myself for not jumping in but there is just so much other stuff around that i know rocks.