Worst Beer Scene on Earth?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by chipawayboy, May 17, 2018.

  1. chipawayboy

    chipawayboy Devotee (429) Oct 26, 2007 Massachusetts

    Was in the Middle East this week in a major/modern city - one that is relatively progressive given Muslim rules around alcohol - i.e. alcohol permissible in western hotels and by license to expats only via gov controlled outlets. Most hotels have a line up that goes like this - Bud and BL, Heineken, and Becks. You might be able to get Guinness and Hoegarden in one of the Hotel restaurants if you are lucky - and I’ve seen a few other odd ball Belgiun and Japanese brews on occasion. Having my Buds this week I noticed all of the bottles were pushing a year old. When I looked at bottles of BL and Heineken they ranged from 6 to 11 months old. Not surprisingly the beers “tasted like Bud” and were well within the 14 month BB date..so I suppose I shouldn’t be complaining.... :slight_smile:. All the dist goes through a single company and I’m assuming that given the relatively limited demand - they just stockpile the stuff. In short - an absolutely god-awful beer scene (or should I say Allah-awful?). Anybody have other destinations that can compete w/this??

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  2. surfcaster

    surfcaster Crusader (733) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    150+ feet beneath the surface on a fleet ballistic submarine for months.

    They loosened the rules and allowed a Sharp's toward the end of my service.
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,619) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Scott, a number of years ago I was on a business trip to Amman, Jordon and at the hotel (Marriott I think?) the bars had Amstel on draft and that beer was brewed locally.

    Below is from Wikipedia:

    “In 1958, the first Amstel beer factory outside The Netherlands was established in Amman.[1]”

    I have had a couple of Amstel Light beers in the States which I thought were OK (e.g., I liked them better than BMC light beers). I thought the Amstel 'heavy' beers in Jordan were pretty good. That is what I drank during my week+ visit to Jordan for business.

    Cheers!
     
  4. LeRose

    LeRose Meyvn (1,283) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Thank you for your service.
     
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  5. laketang

    laketang Savant (948) Mar 22, 2015 Illinois
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    Not sure about now, but in 1998 my wife and I stayed at a jungle resort in Belize. And the only beer I could get was Belican beer, and Belican special.nothing else at all. Hopefully it has changed.
     
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  6. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (5,326) Sep 24, 2007 Washington
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    Hmm, ND, SD, and WV are awfully quiet on this thread... :thinking_face:
     
  7. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (2,001) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I went to Niamey, Niger in Africa for two long trips in the late 80's. The embassy met us on the tarmac, gave us each a case of water, warned us not to drink anything but that water, canned Coke, or bottled beer, then escorted us past machine-gun toting airport militia. The beer selection was limited to Heineken and two local beers which apparently used clean water. I despise Heineken though the locals proudly served it to their guests. The local beers were quite bad, one was Bier Niger and I don't recall the other. I was more concerned about amoeba and parasites than flavor. Very friendly folks there, at least back then.

    I also traveled to Pretoria, South Africa just days after Nelson Mandella was released from prison, and shortly before protests/rioting started. The beer and drink situation was much better there, just had to avoid tapwater - which is good advice everywhere. The beer selection was mostly regional and European, and was decent. I had a few beers and went to a theater and watched Africans watching "My Cousin Vinny". Great folks there too.
     
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  8. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (2,001) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Hey - I was in the middle of writing my missive above. I sure don't have anything to complain about as far as the craft beer scene here in South Dakota. We don't export much beer, so folks assume our craft situation here is dire. Far from the truth. Breweries popping up all over, ever improving regional, national, and foreign craft distribution, and plenty of taprooms. At least in the Sioux Falls and Rapid City metroplexes.
     
  9. nc41

    nc41 Poo-Bah (1,570) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Lousy beer, but you got steak and lobster. I ate C's, not feeling sorry here.
     
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  10. 25Comical

    25Comical Initiate (30) Oct 3, 2017 Illinois

    Most of my field destinations in the army were beer-less. Conus was awful. A cold MRE and warm canteens of water were the highlights of the day. The exception was Hohenfels Training Area in Germany.
    When we got to spend time in the cantonment area for showers and resupply they had these small barracks converted to bars with a 2 beer limit. They served Tucher and it tasted absolutely wonderful while we played spades and generally complained about everything.
     
  11. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (5,326) Sep 24, 2007 Washington
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    "Rapid City metroplex" . Oh, buddy. I enjoyed the weekend I spent in RC, back in 2000 (my Dad and I really enjoyed Firehouse brewpub, went a couple times), and, as I have weird hobby of reading small city newspapers, the Rapid City Journal is a regular stop for me. But, for all my love of the region, "metroplex" is non-applicable. A city of 70,000ish folks (not significantly smaller than my city) cannot be a metroplex.

    Mostly though, I was just busting on SD and ND, cuz they're two of the last states I need for my 50 States list. Man, y'alls breweries do not ship. :wink:
     
  12. MNAle

    MNAle Savant (962) Sep 6, 2011 Minnesota

    Snooty left coasters... :stuck_out_tongue:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_City,_South_Dakota_metropolitan_area
     
  13. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (2,001) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Yeah, I was jesting as far as Rapid City metroplex. But...Fernson distributes to surrounding states, and their Farmhouse beer recently earned Gold in the Session Beer category of the 2018 World Beer Cup competition - though I don't care for the style myself.
     
  14. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (5,326) Sep 24, 2007 Washington
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    I do still need to tick the Dakotas, maybe we should talk......
     
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  15. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (5,326) Sep 24, 2007 Washington
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  16. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Zealot (596) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts

    I was in South Africa during the same time period. The country was in a state of euphoria & I had a great trip.

    As far as beer - Castle Stout was my regular & Carling Black Label was everywhere, & was decent.

    I had the opportunity to drink rudimentary “beer” in the Soweto township - tasted like sour carbonated milk - but I told them I liked it to be a good traveler.
     
  17. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (5,326) Sep 24, 2007 Washington
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  18. Victory_Sabre1973

    Victory_Sabre1973 Meyvn (1,392) Sep 15, 2015 Minnesota
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    Go to Bismarck, Fargo, Grand Forks, and Minot ND, and you will get good, if not grea
    You can get Fargo Brewing beers throughout MN, and I've seen Fernson (SD) in Southern MN.

    WV, on the other hand, I have no advice.
     
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  19. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Meyvn (1,398) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    In the U.S., Mississippi still looks pretty bad for beer.
     
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  20. russpowell

    russpowell Poo-Bah (8,619) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  21. beertunes

    beertunes Poo-Bah (5,326) Sep 24, 2007 Washington
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    No one does.
     
  22. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Meyvn (1,398) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    West Virginia is a kudzu-covered hell.
     
  23. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Meyvn (1,076) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania

    But the college(s) is a goldmine, those kids drink a lot more beer than many working class cities.
     
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  24. donspublic

    donspublic Poo-Bah (1,555) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    They are getting better slowly but surely. There is a small beer store I used to stop at in Ocean Springs (Hops and Growlers) and he was in the process of converting it to a brewpub when I passed thru last July. Grabbed a growler of his hoppy blonde for the road and it was really good. In fact he is doing so well he ditched the store and upgraded to a new larger building. Miss is just getting a late start due to legal issues, but there are breweries opening up there now. Southern Prohibition, known for their hoppy beers, had the honors of winning Paste Session IPA with their Devil's Harvest. So they are getting there :slight_smile:
     
  25. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Meyvn (1,398) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    Yeah, Southern Prohibition is the only brew from MS I've heard of that's getting acclaim.
     
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  26. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Meyvn (1,398) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    Probably just swill, though.
     
  27. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Meyvn (1,076) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania

    probably a shit ton of golden monkey but that would be swill to hazedbeeradvocate.
     
  28. BirdsandHops

    BirdsandHops Poo-Bah (2,264) Apr 14, 2008 North Carolina
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    I'd take Fargo and Grand Forks over where I grew up in Northeastern Arkansas any day of the week. The county where I grew up in AR is still dry, and while there are a few "bars" (e.g. Chili's, Ruby Tuesday's, "Japanese" hibachi places) that will serve alcohol now, you still have to drive across county lines to buy alcohol to take home. And at those places you will be lucky to find a SNPA or Fat Tire that are likely 8 months old.
     
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  29. BirdsandHops

    BirdsandHops Poo-Bah (2,264) Apr 14, 2008 North Carolina
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    Kudzu and Oxycontin
     
  30. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Meyvn (1,398) Sep 15, 2014 New York

    Golden Monkey is not swill.
     
  31. AllHopsMatter

    AllHopsMatter Zealot (541) Jul 16, 2016 California
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    So I'm currently visiting family in Ukraine for a couple weeks. Even over the last year there has been a stong improvement. Its far from the hop heaven I've grown accustomed to in California, but new local micro and nano breweries are making almost styles, except ba stouts and neipas. That being said, even in the late 2000s and early 2010s all we had was maybe 3 major breweries owned by AB InBev and Co, each making a couple different lagers that all tasted the same, some Stella + Beck's, and a few cheap shelf-type Germans. And Kvass, obviously. This was in a major city -- I imagine that remote less populated regions got less. It certainly felt pretty barren.

    Obviously though, the African and Middle Eastern countries you guys mentioned sound way worse. Kinda puts into perspective when we (in the U.S.) complain about not getting some particular brewery or style.
     
  32. surfcaster

    surfcaster Crusader (733) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    Thanks-

    No one shot at me underwater.

    The guys pounding ground in the Middle East while I was poking the holes in the ocean are those who truly sacrificed.

    Cheers!
     
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  33. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (2,001) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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  34. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (2,001) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Yeah, besides the dire beer situation in third-world countries, visitors can't eat anything uncooked, and personal safety isn't a given. We were told that if our embassy van broke down while passing the palace we should hit the deck - apparently had recently not gone well for a tourist family that stopped for pictures. Also, while we were there on one trip, we were ordered to stay in our hotels during the funeral of a college student/protestor shot by police across the street from where we were working. Wisely, the police were grounded too and the military kept order. We drank a lot of Bier Niger that day to cut the tension.
     
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  35. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Devotee (408) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    Caribbean islands can get pretty bad... understandable, considering they're... islands. Every island has their own lager (Wadadli, Piton, Presidente, etc.) But its a trade off for being in the Caribbean.
     
  36. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Meyvn (1,371) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan

    I would say Antarctica, but there have been several BAs with Antarctica as the location in their profile. They must get some beer there. :grin:
     
  37. bbtkd

    bbtkd Poo-Bah (2,001) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Some of them have good rum. I had a local beer at the Bahamas Hard Rock, it was OKish. Could have all kinds of imports such as Bud, etc. Hard pass.
     
  38. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Devotee (481) May 13, 2007 South Carolina

    Maybe they're on this page so they don't forget what beer is like?
     
  39. Squire

    Squire Poo-Bah (1,949) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Come on down and I'll show you around. Southern Prohibition would be our first stop.
     
  40. champ103

    champ103 Poo-Bah (4,268) Sep 3, 2007 Texas
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    Among other places, I've worked in Mouritania, Africa, in South Korea, and in Trinidad. As well as the Antarctic Peninsula, and offshore oil rigs in Gulf of Mexico and North Sea. All those places were pretty bad for beer selection (some are an obvious no brainer why). I remember finding a place on Geoje Island in South Korea that actually had some selection. They even had Fuller's London Pride, when I ordered the bottle there was no date that I could read (that I remember), but I know that label had not been used in many years. I found it funny at the time.
     
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