Worst Brewery Thread Vibe?

I live about 5-10 minutes from the brewery and have never once paid a visit. For the longest time they were only open on Sunday mornings. Might still be the case for all I know. I thought that was ridiculous.

 

What do you personally think about what @chipawayboy discussed concerning a change in brewing process? Do you think the present day Trillium beers taste worse? If so, in which way are they worse? Why do you think Trillium made a brewing process change?

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What beers?

I was at the newer location a year or so ago and the beers were very good to great. I did not have all of them but the 10 or so I had were all quite enjoyable. The only one I would not have again, because it was not a taste I liked but was well made was Moms Jeans, too much chocolate for me.

I was out there a few weeks ago but did not get to stop by.

Have not had any canned offerings so I can’t speak to that.

Pretty sure their beers don’t suck. Maybe not to your likes or not as good as your local but to say they suck is a pretty huge opinion with nothing to back it up.

Enjoy

 

Well, I don't really read anything from the Northeast forum, but now I want to go check this Trillium thread out

 

The Trillium beers I have had are always tasty and I have not noticed any real change in taste. In my eyes their beers are still miles above most. Their cost seems to be pretty consistent with other places no? I don't live in the area but the feedback I get is they are packed, business is booming, etc. I really don't see any current backlash with Trillium outside maybe a few folks who still have hurt feelings, etc. If there was a real backlash they would not be growing?
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To me I don't think they do. I have had beers before and after the so called change and they are just as good as they have been. I think maybe folks tastes could fluctuate, burnout, etc. I just don't see this massive swing into bad tasting beer. Anyway my 2 cents.

 

Mine was a general comment not directed specifically at the trillium thread. While I get people complaining about something good being changed to bad. In the pacific forum that’s noble ale works. However, on the other side there is the 3 chiefs thread that is based on that fact they think 3 chiefs creates hype beers and practices in scarcity marketing. Maybe that’s true but how does that matter to you?

I see a lot people complaining because they can’t be part of that group or get that particular beer. It’s like if I can get it it must be bad and I want others to agree with me.

 

The Yale Terrace Brewing thread in the Mid-Atlantic forum. The original thread was deleted and Todd actually had to step in a couple times on the new one to quell the generally negative (albeit entertaining) vibe.

 

Imagine that.

 

The only way that money saving as a motivator for changing yeast makes any sense is that Conan is easier to harvest since LA3 is a top cropping strain and it also needs higher oxygen levels, particularly when repitching. Even then, with the IPA’s they brew, harvesting Conan is generally not advisable unless they have some lower gravity, less hoppy beers to harvest from. On top of that, switching yeast strains like that won’t make beer go from world class to subpar or mediocre the way people are claiming. There’s either something else at play if the beers are actually that different, or people are fishing for reasons to bash on the brewery.

 

Agree..I have had a good number of their beers and they taste really good. I cannot see any major change, if there is its so small its hard to notice. I think there is more a desire to bash them, least in my humble eyes.
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High turnover on the production side is my guess.

 

The Gun Craft Beer thread in the Great Lakes forum went about as expected before it got nuked.

 

Weedy, I went to the loooong Trillium thread and I scanned the first 4 pages. There is indeed lots of discussion that the Trillium beers are 'just not the same'. As to whether this is a fermentation issue you are likely in a better position to opine on this topic.

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Cool, now we can have a shit show Trillium thread on this forum too.

 

How many brands/batches since October 2018?

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I have had 35 different beers from them, I have had around 10-12 beers from maybe 4-5 different lines since the change being talked about. I did not see any noticeable changes. I am sure folks have had a larger number than me since mine are from trade. The person I trade with consumes a lot of their beer and he agrees with me that if there is a change its minor and does not ruin their beer that it drinks as good. This is just my perspective, if the beer changed for the worse I would certainly mention it. I am not vested in them and would speak up if it was really the case. I find their beer very good and hate to see bashing if its just not true. A minor change is one thing, folks stating that the beer is just bad, etc is another. I would like to hear from folks who had a lot more and get their honest opinions without bias.

 

Well, as I mentioned above I have only scanned 4 pages (of 11) of the Trillium thread and there is indeed a fair bit of 'back and forth with some folks agreeing with you (i.e., only minor changes) but some folks have very differing opinions here.

I have had zero batches of Trillium beer since Oct. 2018 so I have no personal perspective here. It sure reads like their are some notable inconsistencies going on here. Is it the change in yeast that is the root cause of these inconsistencies?

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I agree, there is a wide spectrum on this and that is what's so odd. You have one side saying its terrible and the other saying if there is a change its so small I cannot tell. To me, I am more inclined to go with the minor change crowd. If their beer changed so much it was hard to drink you would see a major change in their sales, least you would assume so. I have not heard anything about the place being empty and beers sitting to be sold, seems just the opposite. Sadly there is a small group that is ticked at Trillium and I feel (just my opinion not fact) that they desire to smear Trillium no matter what. I don't live there and have a very open mind about the brewery, if they sucked I would say it, I just am not seeing it. At most some folks may perceive a minor change in the beer but what is causing it then, I cannot say. At the end of the day my view is their beer is still world class and if any changes did happen its beyond my skills to pick up, but some say its so obvious then you would assume any drinker could detect it
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Here’s my take— the differences at trillium have been pretty major:

* on the hoppy offerings, zero hop flavors shine through. The nose is totally muted, which is a shame since the unique flavors that trillium has been known for is what ignited my love for craft beer

* MUCH thicker/heavier mouthfeel.. they claim the fermentation change was to get a softer mouthfeel.. I think it’s gotten the opposite result, a Viscous/syrupy/thick mouthfeel that makes me grimace and tires my palate out within half a can.

It’s especially galling because they claimed the changes would “make our beers better” but didn’t give specifics beyond that

I remember people used to complain about hop burn on some trill beers.. that wasn’t so bad for me since the flavors were so unique and light , even a heavy hitting DIPA like heavy mettle seemed to dance in my palate, and I’m not above a little hop intensity. But now, ddh congress and heavy mettle taste like garlic cloves mixed with jolly ranchers.

Where I used to hop in my car and drive 45 minutes 1 way without hesitation, now They’ve lost me for good... plenty of great consistent stuff right here in my own state