WYeast Starter Question

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  1. KingofPrussia

    KingofPrussia Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2018 Vermont

    Novice here. Done a few brews so far that have come out pretty well.

    I built a starter last night using Wyesat London Ale for a brew tonight. Background info: Ordered it with some other ingredients and it arrived Saturday. I forgot to refrigerate it and it was out at room temperature for 2 days. Last night I smacked it and it never inflated after a few hours. It was manufactured Sept 20107. After a few hours, boiled up some DME, cooled it, and added the yeast. I looked inside the packet and it had 2 activators, one was broken and the other was still in tact. I cut the in tact one and poured it into the starter with the rest of the yeast.

    My question is with any of the above red flags indicated that maybe I should ditch it and build a new starter tonight.

    • Not refrigerated for 2 days
    • Didn't inflate
    • Added the activator to the starter after pouring the yeast (is that bad??)
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Relax and wait to see what happens.
     
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  3. TooHopTooHandle

    TooHopTooHandle Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2016 New York

    I would say if you have good activity in your starter everything should be ok for you. I have also had the wyeast smack packs not pop both packs inside of it. I also cut them open and added them to the starter. IIRC I think the contents in the activators is just wort and yeast nutrients. When this happened to me my beer turned out just fine.
     
  4. KingofPrussia

    KingofPrussia Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2018 Vermont

    Thanks guys
     
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  5. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    A couple of thoughts: Your packet was five months old and stored warm, this can be a major problem. I ask (politely) for age of yeast before buying anything, try to be less than 2 months and 3 is about my limit. A big-box store like Northern Brewer or More Beer is not really set up to give this sort of feedback, that's why I use smaller suppliers where you can talk to the person who's processing the order. I also buy two ice packs when shipping.

    Older yeast packets will take longer to inflate, up to 24 hours. Also expect much less inflation. If a packet never inflated I would not use it.

    Try and get a feel for yeast calculators . . . here's a good one:
    http://yeastcalculator.com/

    After having had liquid yeast that wouldn't start, I never brew without having some type of "back up" yeast. It might be something as simple as US 05.

    All that said, I've started a five month old packet of London Ale that did just fine.
     
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