Yeast advice

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by ash111, Sep 12, 2020.

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  1. ash111

    ash111 Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2009 Virginia

    Hi all, I'm planning either a hearty brown ale or a porter and am looking for a yeast that can ferment inside without temperature control (so something between 75-80 Fahrenheit). I am interested in this kveik strain from Omega, but am open to any suggestions anyone has.

    The ABV won't be anything higher than 7%, and I'm not looking for the yeast to give me any specific flavors.

    Any thoughts or advice appreciated.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I'd say a Kveik strain would be your best bet for a fairly clean beer at those temps.
     
  3. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Lutra kveik is great stuff, go with that.
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    If you could keep the primary fermentation from exceeding 75 I would suggest US-05 to you.

    A cheap/easy way to cool down fermentation is to place your fermenter in a shall plastic pan filled with water - this will operate like a heat sink.

    Cheers!
     
  5. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I have used my bathtub with great success as well.
     
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Refusing to bathe for the duration of a primary fermentation. An example of 'taking one for the team'?:stuck_out_tongue:

    Cheers!
     
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  7. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    I thought the same thing. US-05 is always the answer.

    The fermenter in water is a great hack too. Place a wet towel over the carboy, in water filled pan, and aim a low speed fan on that. It will really wick heat.

    Cheers.
     
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  8. Dave_S

    Dave_S Crusader (429) May 18, 2017 England

    I wouldn't advise this tbh - could lead to some unpleasant aromas...
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    A fermentation with Brett!?!:wink:

    Cheers!
     
  10. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    Is Lutra cleaner than Oslo?
     
  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I haven't used it, but by the accounts that I've read, Lutra may be the cleanest of all the Kveik strains.
     
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  12. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    I am not super familiar with all kveik strains, but I can attest that Lutra is VERY clean. Out of the several kveik "lager" attempts from my buddies, the Lutra is absolutely the cleanest and most lager-like of them all. I will be using it for the first time in the next few weeks for a schwarzbier "lager".
     
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  13. wasatchback

    wasatchback Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jan 12, 2014 Tajikistan
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    Ordered some of this yeast and was looking for more info on it.

    I generally detest most Kviek yeasts. To me they all have this weird mouthfeel to them. From everything I’ve read it seems to be from excessive organic acid production as compared to standard ale or lager yeast. Thinking this yeast fermented a bit cooler (70s) might eliminate that or reduce it at least.

    Any yeast nutrient or oxygen beta on this yeast in particular? Especially for a lower gravity wort which from what I can gather is what most Kviek yeasts struggle with without some help.

    I’m not interested in brewing a lager with it but interested in how clean and potentially hardy it is.
     
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  14. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    I keep seeing this out there now, like there's not enough nutrients in the wort for a kveik to succeed. I call baloney. I just friggin don't believe it, not for one second. I will never use nutrient in a kveik beer.
     
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  15. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    I just pitched lutra on a “Märzen” cause I needed it ready by October1st for a wedding. Hoping you are right. I was looking for Oslo but were out so went with Lutra. I normally like using lager yeast but it’s not always possible. Oslo was crazy clean for me.
     
  16. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    @ash111 All this which Kveik strain is the cleanest may be too much for you.
    If you are able to get some Kveik yeast for your brew, given your circumstances, I think you will be alright. They tend to be worry free.
     
  17. wasatchback

    wasatchback Pooh-Bah (1,574) Jan 12, 2014 Tajikistan
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    I don’t know how “baloney” it is. There’s definitely studies available that shows quite a bit more FAN consumption from Kviek yeasts. A lot of these yeasts were used for high gravity nutrient rich (raw) beers. A low gravity all Pils malt beer might not have enough FAN. American 2 row probabky not an issue. Definitely seen people talk about issues with low gravity worts.
     
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  18. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    This is an interesting point, as a lot of folks say that to get the full effect of kveik yeasts, you need to stress them.

    I'm guessing that if you want the full spectrum of esters from a kveik yeast, go full on. Underpitch, no extra oxygen, no nutrients, push the temperature. If you want it to be clean, treat it as you would a lager yeast, or at least a continental ale yeast.

    Does this seem reasonable?
     
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  19. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    Use a normal pitch rate instead of purposely underpitching, and I'm sure it will turn out good.
     
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  20. ash111

    ash111 Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2009 Virginia

    Thanks for all the feedback. The weather just took a major turn for the cooler, so I may wind up going with something like US-05. But, I do appreciate hearing from those of you who have used Lutra (or other kveik strains) for a range of beer styles.

    For what it's worth, I've used a few other Omega strains and Imperial's kveiking for a few IPAs this summer, and have been impressed with all of them. Solid flavor (my brewing skill is definitely the limiting factor there, not the yeast), quick fermentations and no worries about temps getting high.
     
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