yeast for warm weather brewing

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  1. Crackerbarrel

    Crackerbarrel Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2014 New York

    Just got done with my first ever homebrew last week, and i dont want to wait until its cool to brew again (as I'm still only cutting my teeth on brewing PA's/IPA's).

    The limited knowledge I currently have tells me that the strain of yeast is the factor most affected by a warming temperature. Does anyone have any suggestions about what strains I can use for an IPA that can handle the mid 70's well?
     
  2. pointyskull

    pointyskull Zealot (675) Mar 17, 2010 Illinois
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    Make a saison with Wyeast 3724 Belgian Saison. It likes it warm...
     
  3. shredder83

    shredder83 Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2013 Illinois

    I've read that 3724 stalls out at like 1.030 if you don't ramp up the temps into the mid to high 80's?
     
  4. pointyskull

    pointyskull Zealot (675) Mar 17, 2010 Illinois
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    Yes it does (stall at 1.030) and then it comes roaring back to like at warmer temps after that...
     
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  5. ThomP

    ThomP Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2007 Texas

    Make a swamp cooler and use soda bottles filled with ice to maintain temperatures. I use a coleman cooler with a hole in the top, fill about 1/3 with water add a few 16 oz bottles and bam I got my temp in the mid 60's. just by adjusting the amount of ice filled bottles you can control your temp.
     
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    US-05 is a great yeast for making IPAs and according to Fermentis this yeast can be used up to 75°F. I have only brewed with US-05 up to around 71°F so I can’t personally vouch for how this yeast performs at 75°F.

    Saison yeast strains are generally heat tolerant. My favorite Saison strains are WLP585 and ECY08.

    Cheers!
     
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  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I don't go above 80-ish and have never had 3724 stall. Pitch plenty of healthy yeast, oxygenate properly, and provide nutrients. It's still a slow yeast, but in my experience it doesn't quit (or stall) if you take care of it.
     
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  8. Biobrewer

    Biobrewer Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2009 California

    People have had a lot of success using our Wallonian Farmhouse yeast at higher temperatures around 75-80F. Nathan Smith, who will be speaking at NHC on new hop varieties, gave me a few beers the other day that he brewed with Yeast Bay yeast, and the IPA wort fermented with Wallonian was absurdly good. It had a nice complexity to it.

    Cheers!
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Nick, do you have input on how Saison Blend ‘works’ in the high 70’s/low 80’s? Will this yeast blend produce higher alcohols (fusel oils) at those temperatures?

    Cheers!

    Jack
     
  10. Biobrewer

    Biobrewer Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2009 California

    People have definitely reported using the Saison Blend in the mid-70's (75-76) and have reported good results. This discussion has just reminded me to update the fermentation temperature range for a couple of the yeast based on a lot of data we've been collecting!
     
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  11. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Unless you plan to do a swamp cooler (2nd choice) or just break down and invest in a freezer/controller (1st choice) then I would steer clear of anything other than saison yeasts or anything mentioned above that might be more heat tolerant. Even with saison yeasts, I would check the specifics of each strain before assuming they'll make great beer all summer long, regardless of the heat. Recall that ambient air temperature is going to be quite a bit less than the temperature inside your fermenter when fermentation is at its peak. So if a yeast is listed as 68-78 that probably means wort temperature, not ambient air temperature.

    I sometimes do little extract batches at home where I don't have a freezer/controller setup. When it gets warm, I don't make anything but saisons until it gets cool again.
     
  12. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I just used some ECY14 for a saison. My garage is getting warm to say the least. I started the beer down cool around 67* when I pitched it, says to use from 72-85 I think. Let it ramp to 74* held it there for a day or so, and then removed it from the chamber so I could crash a few carboys ( and chill some beer I stored in there ).

    It took off, and it still going strong. Not a huge krausen with it, came up, went down, stayed low on the top of the beer and was rippin' away. Smells great, and I can't pick up any fusels from it in my nose or taste of it so far. Very nice yeast, and it's currently at 81* in the garage.
     
  13. slusk

    slusk Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2009 Virginia

    The fridge and temp control is the best option but if your like me, I don't have the room for a fridge. The swamp cooler works well too. I use a passive cool box, it's like a homemade cooler. I haven't yet found a cooler that is tall enough for my better bottles so I used a plastic tote and lined it foam rubber. It will hold temps to within a couple of degrees for about 8-10 hours using freezer bricks. It's a middle of the road alternative.
     
  14. ThomP

    ThomP Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2007 Texas

    I removed the top of my cooler, hinges and all. I made a 1x10 frame and re positioned the the top on top of the frame and cut a hole in the top for the air lock to stick out of. Works really well and holds temp way better than an open box and wet tee-shirt.
     
  15. slusk

    slusk Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2009 Virginia

    Ahh.. good idea. Kinda like the chest freezer kegerator modification.
     
  16. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I do all of that, and it "stalls" Fluor a week only to take off like nothing happened and reach a low FG. Yeast be finickey.
     
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  17. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    Saison (as above). I like to make strong ones with lots of oats and American hops. I usually ferment with a mix of Wy 3724/3711 and ferment >80 degrees.
     
  18. ThomP

    ThomP Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2007 Texas

    Ahh.. good idea. Kinda like the chest freezer kegerator modification.


    Exactly. took about 30 minutes to modify for several years of fermentation. cost about $6
     
  19. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    It's wet tee-shirt time again!

    seems to me that something funny's going on around here
    people laughing and dancing and paying entirely too much for their beer
    but we all think it's clean out of sight
    and we're ready to boogie cuz the sign outside says it's wet tee-shirt night

    -FZ
     
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