Yeast lab requirements

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  1. jmdevine85

    jmdevine85 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2015 Florida

    Hey everyone I'm new to the forum and to the Craft Brew world, My background is in lab bio/toxicology etc, and the question I have is whether knows the requirements of a small brewery to operate their own yeast production lab... not so much equipment but does it require any additional certifications/FDA/dept of health or agriculture? approval or certification of food/pharmaceutical grade "ingredients" in the culturing process?
     
  2. RBCORCORAN

    RBCORCORAN Initiate (0) May 18, 2009 Massachusetts

    I could be wrong and if so someone will chime in but yeast growth is a by product of the fermentation process so they just harvest it and use it . Some have members of the staff the check and test it and what ever else they do but I know from homebrewing that it's fairly easy to harvest and use it for your next batch.
     
  3. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Some Brewers just order from the established yeast companies such as Wyeast and White Labs. Some breweries have their own Lab, yeast bank, and will propagate from the Yeast bank.

    No regulations that I am aware of
     
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  4. jmdevine85

    jmdevine85 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2015 Florida

    Thanks, I'm aware of harvesting techniques and supplier, was curious about regulations on in house activities on maintaining cultures and banks. sounds like no regulation is the consensus I've gotten so far
     
  5. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    @sierranevadabill can help answer that.
     
  6. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Apparently it depends on the size of the brewery. Turns out I learned from a lab tech at a brewery that sometimes you can use that harvest bit safely for 2-5 generations/batches of beer, but eventually the yeast population changes and only using harvested yeast may impact the flavor profile. So smaller breweries tend to buy a particular strain of yeast as needed for pitching from one of the big commercial labs. Larger breweries may have their own lab where as part of quality control they take steps to preserve the first generation yeast and "grow" enough to be able to provide their own yeast for pitching in successive batches. So apparently there are some breweries that have a proprietary house strain that they preserve and use exclusively. (Lots of the details of how all this is done are beyond my pay grade.)
     
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  7. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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  8. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina

    This.
    We're drinkers. You want to ask this question of a community of industry folks.
     
  9. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Top cropping strains can go more generations. A local place is on 90+. There are British breweries the have been reportedly repitching the same yeast for decades
     
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  10. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks! Longer than I'd been told so helpful to know.
     
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