Yeast Propagation and Dregs

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  1. MrTCS

    MrTCS Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 Indiana

    Just finished my second beer and decided to do some yeast washing. Watched several videos and read up on it but one thing I haven't seen mentioned is rather I should decant the liquid off the top and store just the yeast or leave it there until I'm ready to use it again (probably be a month of two).

    Also, I have a bottle of Matilda that I'm going to try and get the dregs from. Do I need to immediately make a small starter for it since I won't be using them for a while? I only have one big bottle to get dregs from.


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    Thanks,
    Tim
     
  2. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Washing: leave under the cover of sterile water, your liquid looks pretty dark, might want to decant and cover with sterile water (pressure cooked and cooled, or at least boiled and cooled). If you go for a month, make a starter at least to wake it up.

    Bottle dregs: I would pitch it straight into a small starter from the bottle (flame the lip of the bottle before pouring and after). Also, I have had issues with culturing the Brett from Matilda in the past, not sure why.
     
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  3. MrTCS

    MrTCS Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 Indiana

    It's probably dark because I messed up when racking to the bottling bucket and had to leave a little more beer in the primary then desired. I'll work on boiling some water up to replace what's in there now.

    Thanks,
    Tim
     
  4. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    Can't say I go along with this advice. Storing at ambient is not optimum. Adding wort that hasn't been boiled is opening the door for bacteria.
     
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  5. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    I'm sure storing it at room temperature wouldn't be the end of the world, but keeping it cold and keeping the yeast dormant would really be preferred.
     
  6. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    The Crooked Stave guy says it's best to store Brett at room temperature.
     
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  7. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    And yet neither of you know his name...:flushed:
     
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    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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  9. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I was thinking about doing this exactly but with wyeast 3711. Keeping it stored in mason jars in the fridge would be fine right?
     
  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Fridge would be the place to store 3711. But I think the discussion was about culturing (and subsequent storage of) bottle dregs. I wouldn't recommend culturing 3711 from a bottle, unless you happen to have a bottle of beer made with 3711 and just want to do it for fun, because 3711 is readily available.
     
  11. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Oh I see. I was ignorant to what bottle dregs was until just now.
     
  12. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Brett alone is better at room temp. But if your bottle has any LAB in it then you are favoring them by leaving it warm.
     
  13. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry Initiate (155) Jun 11, 2015 New York

    Not to dissuade you from trying, but I've attempted to harvest from a number of GI 750s (Halia, Gillian, Juliet) and never managed to get something going. I even left an old 2012 or 13 Juliet sit with low gravity starter wort in it for a few weeks only to have it still smell like un-fermented wort in the end with no signs of fermentation. I'd say go for it, but just be aware they don't seem to perk up like other bottle conditioned beers. Perhaps a solution with pasteurized apple juice would provide more simple sugars to get things going.
     
  14. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    It wouldn't surprise me if the GI sister beers are pasteurized, but they don't want to admit it.
     
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