Yeast starter question

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  1. meter_

    meter_ Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2015 New York

    My first yeast starter (1L) is currently on a stir plate for a brew day tomorrow (2.5 gallon batch). I know that most people just dump the whole starter in, but i was wondering if it is okay to cold crash to the starter and get the yeast to cake at the bottom, then dump out most of the dme wort to leave a primarily yeast slurry. I'd prefer not to contribute flavors from my starter to my beer. Is this okay to do?
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It's not only okay, it's preferable IMO.
     
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  3. Hendrick24

    Hendrick24 Pooh-Bah (1,949) Sep 6, 2013 Wisconsin
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    Not only okay but good practice IMO. Just re-suspend the cake in the small amount of remaining wort and pitch away.

    EDIT: @VikeMan beat me to it.
     
  4. meter_

    meter_ Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2015 New York

    Any thoughts on how long i need to refrigerate the flask to get all of the yeast to settle to a cake?
     
  5. Hendrick24

    Hendrick24 Pooh-Bah (1,949) Sep 6, 2013 Wisconsin
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    Usually just give it a day to settle out but it sounds like you may not have that much time, I'd guess if you started now though it would be mostly settled by the time you brew tomorrow.
     
  6. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Decanting the starter beer before pitching the yeast into a 2.5G batch size is absolutely necessary.
    No reason to give up valuable space in the fermentor for less than quality ingredients.
     
  7. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    I always decant. I just brewed a cream ale and had a 2L starter. No way I was dumping all that "beer" in my beer. Two days in the fridge and got a nice compact cake. Poured off most of that liquid prior to pitching.
     
  8. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Pitching the entire starter is strictly reserved for non-conformist brewers. However, the recipe needs to be made knowing how much the starter will dilute the beer. If done properly, pitching the entire starter makes a better tasting beer. Fact!

    Fortunately, you can't miss what you've never had, so you might as well chill and decant.
     
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  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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  10. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Until a convincing Brulosopher type experiment reveals to me that it doesn't matter, or that I would be better off pitching the whole thing, I won't pitch entire starters if they are > ~ 1 L. You'll probably sacrifice some healthy yeast when you decant, but at least your wort is not 10% over-oxidized nastiness.
     
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  11. meter_

    meter_ Initiate (0) Oct 14, 2015 New York

    i'm going to push my brew day to tuesday and decant. thanks for the advice.

    unfortunately, my starter overflowed last night and i lost about 10% of the solution. not much i can do about it now, but i might need a bigger flask for next time.
     
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