Yeast starter with no Maltose

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  1. jcar

    jcar Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2003 California

    Hey guys need some help!

    I'm brewing tomorrow. While getting ready to make my yeast starter tonight I realized that my DME had been invaded by mice, had to though it all away. The problem is I already hit my smack pack of Wyeast 1056. Its now 7:45pm on a friday night. What can i do? Any suggestions
     
  2. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    I'm no pro and there may be people to shoot me down, but how about table sugar in a pinch? Hell it's a substitute for priming. Honey? After all, not looking for flavor just fermentable sugars to multiply the yeast cell count.
     
  3. jcar

    jcar Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2003 California

    everything I've read states that yeast cant go from simple sugar to maltose. Not even Honey, not enough nutrients for the yeast
     
  4. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Don't make a starter...make a low gravity beer and/or a smaller batch.
     
  5. jcar

    jcar Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2003 California

    not an option, my beer is a 1090 Imperial Black IPA.
     
  6. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Problem may appear closer than it is.

    When the moment is right...pitch the w-yeast, as is, straight from the smack-pak into your wort...then RDWHAHB.
     
  7. beeraroundtown

    beeraroundtown Initiate (0) Oct 11, 2008 Oregon

    Can you get another pack of yeast tomorrow? If so just pitch two packs or get some pack of dry yeast. Or can you postpone the brew day?
     
  8. jcar

    jcar Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2003 California

    a fellow home brewer just came through with some liquid malt extract!!! Happy Happy!! Thank you Malachi!!!
     
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  9. Boozecamel

    Boozecamel Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2011 Canada (BC)

    Seive out the mouse poop and boil the crap out of the dme? Just kidding, I probably would have tossed it too. Probably.
     
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  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Yeast sense the sugars in their environment and build transporters and enzymes to move and use the sugar types available. If you feed them sucrose, they gear up fo sucrose, and not for other sugars. That's why starter worts should contain the same sugar types as beer wort. I think if I had to choose between A) a table sugar starter and B) pitching a single smackpack into 1.090 wort, I'd choose B. But then I'd discard B and choose C)... get some DME and do a proper starter.
     
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  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    BTW, having already smacked a smackpack doesn't mean you have to use it right away.
     
  12. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    Vike as always, thanks for the education. I recall from Palmer, that yeast can get lazy consuming simple sugars they won't make it to the complex ones. However, didn't think they'd all out stop when going to a new environment.

    OP sorry for the poor advice.
     
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