Yeast Starter

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  1. Bshannon12

    Bshannon12 Initiate (0) Mar 30, 2015 New York
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    I am making a 2 step yeast starter using intermittent shaking and its been going for about 18 hours and I woke up to a good amount of sediment at the bottom and a lot of bubbles still coming to the surface. Should I wait for it to slow down or just cold crash and move on start the next step up.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    When you swirl the flask (or whatever) and not a lot of new bubbles are coming out of solution, then you know it's done. When I do multi-step starters, I don't crash before they are done. You could, but that would defeat the purpose of whatever starter sizes and number of steps you planned, i.e. to target "X" amount of cells at the end.
     
  3. Bshannon12

    Bshannon12 Initiate (0) Mar 30, 2015 New York
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    I am getting a lot of bubbles without even shaking it and its been going for almost 24 hours
     
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I'd say it's not uncommon for a non-stirplate starter to take longer than 24 hours to finish.
     
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  5. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    This is normal, but go ahead and shake vigorously. You want to drive off the CO2, mix in some air, and keep the yeast in suspension . . . all jobs normally handled by a stir plate.

    Time is a starter's friend. You may have a nice krausen (or it might come and go at night) or you may not. Yeast enjoy trying to annoy the brewer. As long as there are signs of fermentation (i.e. CO2/foaming) the yeast are still reproducing. Don't be afraid to shake it a lot, every shake makes it more efficient. As reproduction slows down you will notice much less off-gassing. Then at some point there will be no foam produced from a shake . . . this is when you are done. I normally give it another couple of hours to be sure.

    To make a two-step starter without stir plate could easily take a week (including chilling/decanting).
     
  6. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I am going to sort of disagree here...for a single step non-stir plate starter, 24 hrs is usually plenty...IMHO, even desirable if you are not decanting. Since the OP is going to "2 step" this though it will certainly take longer than 24 hrs. and probably get decanted.

    For others making starters, pitching a starter at high krausen or a little after has it's adherants (at least one : )
    I'd personally buy 2 vials for a starter and do a single step...unless the OP is brewing something exceedingly massive or just wants to practice stepping. up.
     
  7. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Gotta brew this weekend bro. :slight_smile:
     
  8. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    I've actually had a 'blow-off' before with a starter. It was with California Ale, built-up twice. Came to check on it the next morning and my foam stopper was on the ground, with a volcano of foam out the top of the flask. Getting a lot of bubbles is a lot better than getting no bubbles at all. You'll get a healthy ferment in the end.
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I had quite a few, until I added a 5 Liter flask to the arsenal. Even that one has had blow-off once or twice with stepped starters.
     
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