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Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by themind, Aug 9, 2014.
That's not a whale, but a myth...
There was no Black Note 2013
The Bruery Tart of Darkness.It became Drain Pour.$20.00 down the drain.
The biggest one for me personally was Cantillon Blåbær. Had a bottle next to fou and rose, and blåbær didn't stand up to either...
I had PtE for the first time this summer fresh at the brewery, and didn't get the hype. While it's an excellent beer and wouldn't turn one down, I didn't think it was the most impressive IPA. Same with KBS, Sucaba, and Ten Fidy. I've found about half the big hype beers I've tried deserve the credit they get.
Hands down, Sculpin. Not at all impressed...
Didn't get Sucaba the first or second time I had it... but on the third try, I realized it is the equivalent of liquid crack, and deserving of the reputation.
I have to agree with you in that Dark Lord hasn't been overwhelming. It certainly is a great beer, but hasn't delivered on the ballyhoo.
Should have got Pliny the Younger
Hopslam was def one for me a real nice beer but other breweries are putting out easily accessible amazing dipas the other for me was heady the one can I had tasted like straight burnt buttered popcorn and it was fresh so disappointed but did score a few focal bangers that were amaze so I guess that stands for something
Hommage, tasted like cherry cough syrup. I would never trade for it again.
mocha wednesday.... incredible smell but a bit of a let down taste wise.... and not a real whale... but abraxas... to much of a cinnamon bomb. i woul chose huna instead any day
serious? I think hommage is real great. maybe you had the first batch wich wasn't properly cellard?
its cute. what peoples definitions of a whale is. lets set our sights higher
Well, considering the only remotely close to "whale" status beers I've had are Rare and BBVBDL, I can't say much, because they were both amazing.
How many BA's who use the term "whale" when referring to rare beers use the same term when referring to + size women?
One mans whale is another mans herring. It's subjective IMO
Poor Hopslam. It's a mass-produced DIPA and doesn't even really deserve "whale" status. Treat it like any other DIPA.
KBS is my most disappointing hard-to-get beer. The Bruery Sucre is the most disappointing beer that I've spent a lot of money on.
On the plus side, I got a "whale" Speedway Stout recently and thought it lived up to the hype. I loved it.
I love these kinds of posts.
The definition of whales is 100% subjective. To you these aren't whales, that is great you have been around the block a bit. To others who may be new to the craft scene, may not want to trade, or have the means to trade, or live far away from a certain beer this type of limited beer is a whale to them. When you first started out I'll bet you hunted down beers that you now don't even worry about. All perspective.
Same thing as the term "rich." If someone is a millionaire rich likely means billionaire, but to the vast majority of people that millionaire looks rich.
Just because you don't believe it is a whale to you, doesn't mean it is a whale to somebody. Don't make this discussion about yourself. You could just move along. This post adds nothing other than a veiled humblebrag.
Isn't everything in life "subjective"? Doesn't mean something cannot be more clearly defined.
And by the looks of it I was not the only person who made the same statement about PTE and Dark Lord not being a Whale so let's dial back the sass a little bit eh?
A lot in life is subjective, but not everything. The title of the thread is "Your Epic Whale Fail." All I'm saying is that whales can be different for different people, and in fact the thread is specifically speaking to what that individual's epic whale fail is, not what your epic whale fail is, or mine, but that individual's whale.
As for the sass, your initial post was quite sassy don't you think? That you can't be bothered to read along because you have a higher definition of whales than others?
There were also plenty of people who said their whale was Pliny or Dark Lord which to them it is. Actually I've never had Dark Lord myself, and for now at this moment it is a whale (aka one of my top wants right now) I haven't landed.
While I did pick out your post, my first comment clearly said "these kinds of posts" which infers that I was talking about all posts that were like that and not just your post. And just because other people jumped in to state that the beers were not whales, doesn't mean it is the best approach, or adds to the discussion.
Not sure what your post adds to the discussion. Why don't you tell us your epic whale fail?
While not a whale to some of the BA community, I was out in VT in search for Heady on one of my first beercations. I went from store to store, having trouble finding it. The next morning after getting some hunting tips from a couple of locals at the bar I went and found some Heady, but left a couple of plain white labelled beers sitting there on the shelves. Yep it was Lawon's. Still kick myself for passing on that, and while I've had my share of Lawson's since then I still haven't tried the Fayston Maple Imp Stout.
Oops I didn't answer the question correctly.
For me the most disappointing whale that I've had was Double Sunshine. A decent beer, but not in the same realm as some of the other top DIPAs I have enjoyed.
Keep on trying, I'm sure your snarky little comments will show the heathens the light eventually.
And by that, I mean why doesn't the "not a whale" crowd contribute to the thread instead of just trying to cut people down?
Seriously. Batch 2 at an event the Shelton Brothers importers put on. To me this whole whale fail discussion is ultimately about hyped up beers vs actual taste which some other users have mentioned.. To me hommage was one of those beers, something I was told was soo so so so good and amazing by people who had batch one. All I and a handful of other people could taste was cherry cough syrup. Some others thought it was more raspberry than cherry forward. Either way it was just an okay lambic to me and not the amazing rare hard to get lambic people hyped it up to be.
For me the all praised Heady Topper--perhaps not on the scale of rarity but hype.
Really good IPA/IIPA--sure. Was a week old.
Whale or whatever folks call it--- worth lines and friends going out of their way?--not a chance.
Rather have a Wicked Weak Freak any day of the week.
Nelson (which is equally hard for me to get) --a 20 to 1 favorite.
Not really an epic fail, but whenever I went to Dark Lord day I would always buy the max allotment, drink one pretty quickly and age the rest...
I am finding that I like them better fresh and wish I would have had them at the 1 year mark. I am sitting on about 5-6 now that are 3-4 years old, including a brandy/vanilla aged one that I will probably wish I would have had sooner.
Huna. So disappointing. I got 2 at the same time and the second has just been sitting. Might try to french press it with some dark roast and cacao.
I love all the complaints about such and such beers not being whales. Clearly its an subjective beer geek term but I don't see why there can't be discussion of whales without conforming to the white whale list. Whale does not have to mean white whale. There can be different tiers and there are many hard to find beers that a large portion of the community considers 'whales', even if they are not the whitest of the white.
Toronado 20 (as of a few months ago) was seriously underwhelming, as was CC 08 (same tasting, though Cable Car 12 was fucking tasty), Heady wasn't particularly special, and also had Blabaer next to Le Bleu and Beauregarde and it didn't really stick out next to those two.
Nope. Sorry man. If you haven't had Thomme Arthur's or Vinnie Cilurzo's first batch of homebrew, aged on Wormwood planks for 32 years, you are a $&^%#ing novice.
Leon Batch 1 for me was an epic fail when I had it a couple months ago.
I guess Dark Lord isn't truly a 'whale' but IMO it was the worst tasting beer I've ever had that wasn't infected or homebrew. Awful.
BA aged Abraxas. Really good beer but thought DB Hunahpu was miles ahead. I think I actually liked regular Abraxas better.
Come on this is an internet forum, unfortunetly for some, condescension by showing you are superior is the default posting attitude.
Continuing with the trend, although I enjoyed drinking Zombie Dust (not a real whale) quite a bit, I was so excited to finally get some, but after trying it I wouldnt place it nearly as a top 20 beer as it is on BA.
No real whales that were horrible.
Abyss 09 was very disappointing (infected)
I haven't enjoyed the BCBS fruited variants nearly as much as expected. Well, Bramble and Backyard anyways, haven't opened my one bottle of Cherry Rye yet.
By far, Lolita was disgusting. Tasted like flat cough syrup.
I'm to that point where if I don't remember it then it was an ok beer.
I feel weird for even responding to a post this old but...doesn't Chillwave have quite a bit of that honey sweetness? I thought I remembered it being rather sweet last time I had it. Don't even know why I replied, I just remembered another Midwest area IPA that was sweet. Please disregard.
Hopslam. It was nice, but there are others from Bell's that are just as good if not better. I also did not have the same experience with Smooth Criminal as most. This might have a lot to do with what it took to get some (I like on the east coast). My biggest letdown was Black Ops, used to but a case each year, and last two years have traded all but maybe two bottles.
Agreed.. love it, hate it, or .. meh!
Following standard normal distribution 68% of my (untapped) reviews fall between 2 and 4.. superior beers earning a 4.5, and legendary nailing a 5.0. I need to track down more stereotypical white whales.
HopSlam, though not of "Whale" status, was a complete disappointment. So many folks who've never tired better think of this as "the shit" for some reason…different minds perhaps.