your secrets to making a killer imperial stout

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  1. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    just wondering if anyone has any secrets they want to share.

    it can be something like adding dark malts during vorlauf, the salts you (don't) use, ferm temp, etc etc
     
  2. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    Oxygen and high cell count.
     
  3. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    Never forget 2% of the total grain bill of flaked oats to produce a creamy everlasting head foam.
     
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  4. holzwama

    holzwama Initiate (0) Aug 27, 2015 Minnesota

    Agree with both.
    Make sure to have enough yeast!
    I made a nice chocolaty RIS, but I feel the attenuation wasn't there, so it was a little sweet. My estimate on yeast was low. Can't wait to try again and start the yeast a week early!
     
  5. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Don't skimp on the IBUs.
    Also, WLP013.
     
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  6. Travisurfin247

    Travisurfin247 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2010 South Carolina

    When you think that your grain bill has a high enough percentage of dark grains, add more.
     
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  7. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah

    D90 or D180 syrup
     
  8. memory

    memory Zealot (700) Oct 2, 2005 Pennsylvania

    This was posted by HB42 a way back. Works.

    RIS
    17 lbs Two-row Pale
    2 lbs Roasted Barley
    1 lb Crystal 120L
    1 lb Chocolate
    1/2 lb Flaked Oats
    1/2 lb Black Patent
    1/2 lb Crystal 60L
    2.0 oz Nugget 90 mins
    2.0 os Goldings 10 mins
    Wyeast Irish Ale (1084)
    Original Gravity 1.121
    Mash Efficiency 75%
     
  9. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    English yeast. American strains don't add enough complexity. English strain on low/med temp to give some nice subtle esters. Also about 1/8-1/4 lb wheat flour to aid head retention. Big starter. At least 6 different makts with MO as base and also chocolate, black, roasted, honey malt, flaked barley, and a few different caramel malts.
     
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  10. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    going by memory, i can't think of an English strain that's as ABV tolerant as Chico or San Diego Super Yeast.
    and i tend to dig roasted vs flaked barley
     
  11. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    WLP013 London Ale craps out right around 11.5-12% abv (based on newer/better abv calculation)

    Co pitch some Chico or 099 if you want to go any higher
     
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  12. corm44

    corm44 Pundit (847) Aug 28, 2014 New York
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    if you're bottling, pitch some fresh yeast with your priming sugar and give it time. my last 13% RIS took well over a month to fully carbonate in the bottles and the flavor keeps getting better the longer I let the bottles sit. Be patient.

    for ingredients, one of my favorite things to add flavor to my stouts is this maple toasted coconut I buy at my local Mother Earth store. It's amazing in stouts. I buy about a third of a pound for 5 gallons, soak it in some whiskey to sanitize and I secondary on it
     
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  13. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    London and Irish both go 11%. I've made 10%, thats as high as I care to go. To me 9.5-11% is the sweet spot for imperial stouts.
     
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  14. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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  15. daem3384

    daem3384 Zealot (691) Nov 24, 2015 California

    To get a fuller, chewy body, mash at 154F.
    A really long boil will give a great caramelized flavor to the boil with all of the sugars front the grain, so I always start with a big pre-boil volume, and boil for like an extra hour to get to the final gravity to where I want it.
    If you want to bottle condition higher than 13% ABV, pitch a pack of rehydrated champagne yeast at bottling. No yeast flavor contribution, and it carbs really fast.
     
  16. bgjohnston

    bgjohnston Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2009 Connecticut

    I loved everybody else's comments; all I was going to say was I like a little chocolate rye in mine.
     
  17. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Mash at 160 to get ten fidy style viscosity.
     
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  18. Scumbag81

    Scumbag81 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2014 California
    Trader

    I've had no issues getting WLP002/WY1968 up to 14% abv with proper pitch rates and oxygen. Co-pitched (75/25) with 001 I've been able to get it to ~18%.
     
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  19. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    1. Keep the recipe simple, its easy to get too overly complicated in a beer like this and muddle flavors
      1. Pick 1 Base malt
      2. Pick 1 crystal malt
      3. Pick 2 roasted grains
      4. Pick 1 adjunct/body modifier (flaked barley, oats, etc)
    2. Add more bittering additions that you think wise (go above 100 calc'd IBUs)
    3. Huge yeast starter (use a cake from a porter or a stout)
    4. Consider boiling down the first runnings to a thickened syrup for depth/complexity
    5. Proper Pitch temp (low 60's) and proper fermentation temp control (water bath really helps)
    6. Skip adding.....oak, vanilla, cherries, whiskey, bourbon, raspberries, cocoa, chocolate, or any other random ingredient - let the beer be beer!!
    7. moderate to low carbonation - if possible I highly suggest bottling, or kegging in the small 3-5L kegs and serving cask style
     
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  20. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Oats are good, but prefer flaked barley
     
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