Your Typical Mash Thickness?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by utahbeerdude, Nov 17, 2016.

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Which of the following is closest to your typical mash thickness?

  1. 2 L /kg (~1 qt/lb)

    4.8%
  2. 2.5 L/kg (~1.25 qt/lb)

    39.7%
  3. 3.0 L/kg (~1.5 qt/lb)

    47.6%
  4. 3.5 L/kg (~1.75 qt/lb)

    3.2%
  5. 4.0 L/kg (~2 qt/lb)

    4.8%
  6. 4.5 L/kg (~2.25 qt/lb)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. 5 L/kg (2.5 qt/lb)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    I am currently developing a new (and perhaps improved) model of mash pH prediction.

    To that end, and out of sheer curiosity, I would like to know what is the typical mash thickness of all-grain homebrewers (who frequent this forum). Please make a selection in the poll.

    I would also like to know if (i) your mash thickness varies, depending upon the grain bill, for example, or (ii) if you keep the ratio of mash-water volume to grain-bill mass constant. Please respond as appropriate. Any other relevant remarks are welcome.

    Cheers!
     
  2. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah

    For lagers 2qt/lb. maybe more for some.

    Ales 1.25-1.5 qt/lb.
     
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  3. secondbase

    secondbase Initiate (0) Jun 3, 2015 Tennessee

    I aim for 1.3qt/lb.
     
  4. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
    Pooh-Bah

    Why the change for lagers?
     
  5. warchez

    warchez Zealot (545) Oct 19, 2004 Massachusetts

    Same all the time for me. 1.5qt/lb
     
  6. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah

    The thicker mash works for the pale ale malts, that have less enzymes. For lagers with mainly Pils malt with more enzymes, thinner works. There are a few other reasons, but I just poured my first coffee of the day.
     
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  7. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    There's metric bumloads of enzymes in all base malts except perhaps for the darkest Munich malts. I wouldn't change ratio based on Lovibond of base malt.

    I used 1.3 qt/lb for many years, until others discovered that it didn't matter so much, so now I mash a bit thinner at 1.5-2.0 qt/lb (maybe 1.75 average) and think this seems like a sweet spot between workability and enzyme concentration. I wouldn't raise an eyebrow all the way up to 3 qt/lb. Higher than that, it's closer to oceanic dilution in the tun so I start to wonder.
     
  8. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
    Pooh-Bah

    Generally 1.25/lb. if I'm a bit over I don't sweat it.
     
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  9. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I vary from 1.2 with big beers that require more sparge water to up to 2.0 or so for light ABV beers that I would like to have more mash water to hold temp in my setup. I would say 1.5 is my standard for most.
     
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  10. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
    Pooh-Bah

    I ask myself, "Self? What's the thickest mash I'm willing to try to stir hot water into?" Anything under 1.25 qt/lb seems to take a really long time to stir in. It isn't worth the effort to gain sparge water volume.
     
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  11. OldBrewer

    OldBrewer Maven (1,385) Jan 13, 2016 Canada (ON)

    I used to faithfully use 1.25 based on older documentation. More recently, ratios of 1.5 or over seem to have been shown to be preferable. So now I use 1.5. It also results in better overall temperature (seems to help reduce "hot spots"), seems to maintain the temperature longer, and works better when the mash tun space is somewhat limited in size. Would be great if Brulosophy conducted sample tests on these possible advantages. I'm waiting until it is shown that even a higher dilution is preferable, and will then change to 1.75 or even 2.0.
     
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  12. Hogue2112

    Hogue2112 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2016 Ohio

    I add in 5 gallons of water to tun, dough in, add water to consistency. Have no idea how much exactly that is. Haha.
     
  13. A2HB

    A2HB Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2013 Michigan

    I usually brew 3 gal batches, so to maximize sparging, I go with a very thick mash of between 1-1.15 qt/lb. I do a mashout so that usually adds about an extra 1 gal of water before I start the sparge.
     
  14. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Are you batch sparging? If so, the way to maximize efficiency is to ensure that each step of the batch sparge lauter process (i.e. each lauter step) runs off the same volume of wort. It's not completely intuitive (not to me, anyway), so I once spent a day with a spreadsheet to discover that if you do it that way, the wort left behind in the grains after the last step will have the lowest possible gravity, meaning more sugars made it from the mash tun to the kettle.
     
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  15. mrjimcat

    mrjimcat Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2002 New York

    I have always used 1.15 to 1.2 qts per pound and usually get a consistent 75% eff. I do intend to up that on some trial brews to see what I get and to fill up the Igloo tun.
     
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  16. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    1.5qt/lb for me, doesn't vary with the recipe
     
  17. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    It used to be about 1.25-1.5. Recently I switched to biab, no sparge, and it is now probably about 3. I never tried to make the same basic beer both ways in a way that would allow for side by side comparisons, but I'm not detecting overt taste differences between the beers I use to brew and the ones I'm making now.

    Edit- #s are qts/lb
     
  18. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    I build the recipe to 1.25 q/p but I usually round up to the next half gallon increment, then adjust the sparge water volume siren to compensate. This is for 15 gallon batches by the way so the extra volume isn't significant. I do like the idea of mashing thinner to help with maintaining temps a bit better. I'll probably start doing that now that the weather is getting colder.
     
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  19. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    I have pretty much always done 1.25qt/lb. before I switched over to my electrical system, my mash tuns did not have any dead space. However, now that I use a snake keg (upside down) as my mash tun, I have approximately 1 gallon of dead space. So my mash is slightly thinner than the average 1.25qt/lb. I've had great results. Plus one to the idea of maybe using 1.5-1.75qts for smaller grain bill batches for temperature adjustments.
     
  20. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    I'll vary depending on how big the beer is….but i'd say my typical mash is 3 L/kg for any small to moderate size batch.
     
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