Old Cantankerous Stock Ale - Beer Camp #13 | Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.

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Old Cantankerous Stock Ale - Beer Camp #13Old Cantankerous Stock Ale - Beer Camp #13
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Old Cantankerous Stock Ale - Beer Camp #13Old Cantankerous Stock Ale - Beer Camp #13

Brewed by:
Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.
California, United States

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 7.40%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by Beertracker on 12-08-2009

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Ratings: 16 |  Reviews: 12
Photo of robwestcott
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%

Photo of t0rin0
4/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of ArrogantB
3.16/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

750ml bottle that I got in a trade. Dark ruby red color. Very boring smell, malty, wet cereal, meh. Taste followed adn was just a boring maltiness. I was sort of disappointed in this beer and remarked to my buddy how this was the first Sierra Nevada beer that wasn't good and he reminded me of a couple other instances (first bottling of Hoptimum for example) that we had shared and been let down by. Oh well, was nice to try this since I think it was brewery only.

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Photo of TrickkyGangsta
4/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of rrryanc
5/5  rDev +29.2%

Photo of beagle75
2.64/5  rDev -31.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Poured from a 750 ml bottle into a tulip glass.

A: Clear, dark amber color with over two fingers of persistent parchment-tinted foam head. Moderate lacing remains on the glass.

S: Weak caramel, paper, and metallic carbon dioxide are most apparent. A transient whiff of more interesting earthy vanilla is very shy and hard to pin down.

T: Begins very dry, with mid-range malt showing caramel and toast. Acidity is intensely carbonic, creating dissonance amidst other flavors. There is minerally energy in the middle, tasting like vitamin tincture mixed with crystal malt. Bitterness is moderate in the finish, earthy and herbaceous, with rye lingering.

M: Medium viscosity, creamy and acidic on the palate, with brisk carbonation.

D/O: This beer seems half-finished, all awkward flavor combinations and sharp angles begging to be smoothed. It can be best compared to a strong English pale ale, but is thematically very unfocused and not particularly enjoyable.

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Photo of Phelps
2.47/5  rDev -36.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Thanks go out to flexabull for allowing me the chance to try this one. Poured into a snifter. My label says this is 7.3 percent ABV, so the recipe may have been tweaked.

Deep burgundy, shimmering in rusty copper highlights at the edges. Two fingers of dense, sticky pillow fluff the color of powdered ginger caps the liquid, collapsing only slowly and leaving large-bubble lacing as it does.

Not much to pick up in the nose at all — besides ethanol, that is. Lots of booze, perhaps a bit of caramel and toast. Not great.

Sadly, the same thing is going on in the flavor. They got the booziness of the stock ale right, but failed to add the malt flavors to back it up. Ruminate over it long enough and maybe some burnt sugar, a bit of sweet bread, something like red apple and lingering biscuits emerge, but it’s all very light. Almost bock-like.

In line with the rest of the experience, the body’s light and runny body with alcohol running roughshod over everything. Carbonation is mild and tingly, and the finish is fairly clean.

I’m shocked Sierra Nevada actually decided to bottle this one. It’s way too light in flavor, and hardly worth the calories to finish the bottle.

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Photo of Lothore
4.01/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A murky russet colored beer that is crowned by a large, chunky, off white head.

Smell is caramel, brown sugar and hints of christmas spices.

Full bodied with caramel and roasted malt undertones, nutty, oak ... almost brown ale-esque.

M- Medium bodied with quite a bit of carbonation.

D- Definitely on the tamer side for an old/stock ale but it is very smooth and has a full flavor and bodied without being overpowering.

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Photo of flexabull
4.03/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle from the brewery.

Pours a bright and clear copper color, with a fine white head.

Aromas are of nuts, brown sugar, caramel, and figs.

Taste is very similar to the nose. There is notes of figs, caramel, brown sugar, and roasted nuts. There is a base of pretty creamy, slightly sweet malts, a really faint whiskey like flavor, while the finish is crisp, with some mineral hops.

Mouthfeel is smooth with plenty of body.

Overall, this is tasty and interesting, it is much more subtle than I expected, yet still quite complex. I like this.

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Photo of stephens101
3.7/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Written from notes taken 2/12/10

Served in a pint glass at Mcnellie's in OKC. Poured to the rim dark brown to with light red edges. Has an off-white and sticky froth which leaves some fat streaks throughout the session. Has a malty and spicy nose. Tastes sweet with some bitter dark chocolates and black licorice. Medium bodied and fairly viscous. Makes for some nice winter drinking.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
3.83/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

(Served in a chalice)
A- This beer pours a hazy dense caramel brown body with a creamy beige meniscus of foam on top. There is some nice sticky lacing on the glass after each sip.
S- This beer has a slight sweaty note to the green hops and a soft brie note to follow. There is a crisp clean caramel malt note with a faint lemon quality in the finish.
T- This beer has a caramel note with a slight sweetness and a hop flavor of pine with white wine hints to it. As the beer opens up there is a slightly salty/ dry spice quality to the hops and a malt sweetness that lingers just a bit in the finish.
M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with no alcohol heat and a fizzy finish that enhances the hops a bit. D- The hops are softer than the malty sweetness but they have an interesting depth to them that is a bit awkward in this beer but it makes me reach for another sip to try and unravel those flavors.

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Photo of bump8628
3.98/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours up a deep mahogany with a frothy light tan head that holds well leaves behind some lacing.

Aroma is a bit muted, but I can definitely detect that there is going to be a nice spectrum of malt character once it hits my palate.

Great complexity of malt character in taste with a nice toasty nuttiness and a drying dark crystal malt character like toffee and dark fruits. Hops really begin to poke through as it warms with spicy and earthy notes.

Despite being a malt-forward beer this beer is deftly balanced with both hop bitterness and flavor and the finish is dry enough that I could drink a number of these in succession.

Old Cantankerous is a solid and flavorful ale. It doesn't have anything that's going to blow an extreme beer fan's socks off, but it's full of malty nuances that hold my interest just fine.

Cheers to Beertracker for having a hand in the brewing of this beer.

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Photo of coldmeat23
4.36/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

GLASS: Shaker Pint Glass
TEMP: Approx 40 degrees
Had this on- tap at McNellies in Tulsa. Thanks to Beertracker for being such a great homebrewer that he got to go Sierra Nevada's Beer School and help brew this one!

This is a dark amber/ brown liquid with light ruby tinting. The two finger head of creamy, tan colored, foam lasts for a good while. The lacing is full, creating a virtual wall on the sides of the glass as I drink.

The smell is somewhat muted. Light notes of maltiness are most prevalent. There is also a mild earthiness/ nuttiness here, as well.

Good notes of earthy malt flavors dominate this one. It is more nutty than sweet. Light hints of dehydrated cherries and tobacco are easily spotted. A light hint of hop flavor, sans bitterness, is very good here.
This has a slight sweetness to it, but the earthiness is the focal point. I wish it was bottled so that I could taste it again in a year or three.

This is full-bodied with a mild, natural feeling, level of carbonation. It is very smooth with a medium level of creaminess, which suits it very well.

This one is light and extremely drinkable. In the past week, I've had about a dozen and a half of these, just because it's that good! Also, because it will definitely only be here for a short time and I want to get my fill of it!
Congrats to Beertracker, along with the rest of the homebrewers who contributed, and Sierra Nevada on an excellent brew!

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Photo of lovething
4.65/5  rDev +20.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pardon my lack of technique here. This is my first review!

A: Very deep amber hue for me. Nice foam with a good amount of retention.

S: At first sniff, a fair amount of malt with a nice full roasted smell. Got a slight hint of the hops but not all that much sweetness.

T: Prevalent caramel and a good malt balance. Really impressed by the touch of hops that I was not expecting. Balances this out and smooths the caramel sweetness.

M: Rich, but not full. Well balanced and memorable.

D: Fantastic. Wouldn't mind a few more growlers!

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Photo of tpd975
3.88/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a nice burnt orange. Nice tall foamy white head that exhibits good retention and lace.

S: Rather sweet and malty smelling brew. Lots of caramel and nutty toffee mostly. Light notes of sweet fruit and pine.

T: Malty up front. Caramel for sure. Very light nutty notes with toasted bread, and hints of mild sweet summer fruit. The finish has a hint of bitterness before a nice sweet piny sweetness.

M: On the fuller side of medium, smooth, tasty.

D: Good, this home brewer can brew for sure.

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Photo of Beertracker
4.38/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Press Release: Sierra Nevada Beer Camp is designed as a behind-the-scenes look at Sierra Nevada. The program is full-immersion, hands-on beer education. Beer Camp participants get VIP access to the brewery in Chico to see the quality, history, and craftsmanship that goes into making our beer. The campers are treated to a brewery tour, specialized tastings, and training with brewers to experience the unique and inviting environment that makes Sierra Nevada special. Campers work with brewers to develop a name, concept and recip for a new beer of their choosing, which is produced and distributed to a very select number of accounts. Beer Camp attendance is currently limited to industry partners, but look for an opportunity for fans in the summer of 2010.

Sierra Nevada Old Cantankerous (Stock Ale) is a collaboration beer brewed on 9/04/09 at Sierra Nevada's R&D Pilot Brewery for Beer Camp #13. Beer Camps #13 & #14 consisted of the gold medal winning homebrewers from the 2009 American Homebrewers Association (AHA) National Homebrew Competition (NHC). Old Cantankerous was brewed with a combination of seven different domestic & continental malts including two types of Caramel, Chocolate, Pale, Pils, Munich & Vienna for a rich complexity with five different hops being used for balance & character including Magnum, Perle, Sterling & the New Zealand hops Pacifica & Southern Cross which were used in the hopback for additional aroma & complexity. The famous house ale yeast was used to top ferment & condition this American Strong Ale/Stock Ale for approx. 8-10 weeks. Like previous camp beers, Old Cantankerous is only available in select markets and at the brewery's taproom & restaraunt until it's history!

Old Cantankerous pours up with a moderate effervescence that creates a frappé-like beige head that clings to the side of a classic logo pint glass. The bright, burnt umber-sienna color has a great depth of character which makes the first sip that much more inticing! The sweet, toasted malt dominated aroma is surprisingly fruity (caramelized raisins, figgy pudding, tamarind) with an interesting array of earthy spiciness & floral nuances from the late kettle & hopback edition hops which become more perceivable as the beer warms in hand. The flavor starts off with a rich caramelized character that develops a firm nutty (black walnut, chestnut) toastiness along with a compliment of chocolate which accompanied by a moderate-firm bitterness creates a smooth balance, creaminess & adds complexity to this malt focused strong ale with a surreptitious alcoholic warmth. Old Cantankerous is simply a delightful fireside sipper on a cold winter's night in the Sierras. Here's to pioneering homebrewer & company founder, Ken Grossman who could often be found around the old Chico brewery fixing equipment with his trusty hammer which earned him the moniker of Old Cantankerous from the Campers at Stalag #13. Hello Muddah, Hello Fuddah!

CHEERS! Beertracker

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Old Cantankerous Stock Ale - Beer Camp #13 from Sierra Nevada Brewing Co.
Beer rating: 3.87 out of 5 with 16 ratings
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