Veritas 002
The Lost Abbey

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Wild Ale
4.03 | pDev: 15.38%
The Lost Abbey
California, United States
Retired (no longer brewed)
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Notes: This release is a blend of Avant Garde (barrel-aged and bug-infused versions) plus black raspberry mead and Old Viscosity
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UCLABrewN84 from California

3.93/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Thanks to GRG1313 for sharing this one at his tasting.

Pours a clear reddish-brown with a foamy khaki head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is slightly sour with malt, earth, fruit, spice, and wood aromas. Taste is much the same with sour malt, fruit, spice, earth, and wood flavors on the finish. There is a medium amount of acidity on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and dry mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer that has a nice mix of sour and spice qualities that I am getting.

Serving type: bottle.

Jul 28, 2015
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wethorseblanket from California

4.25/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Reviewed from notes taken at Stone Sour Fest 7/19/09.

Cloudy copper colored sort of Consecration-like.
A little Brett funk and bready Belgian style yeast in the nose.
Smooth, well balanced. Sort of like a Quad with tobacco.

Mar 27, 2015
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mdfb79 from New York

3.43/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

From 04/14/12 notes. Had this one at the DC Lambic & Sour Tasting as part of a full Veritas set, 001-010.

a - Pours a dark murky brown color with light carbonation evident and one inch of off white head.

s - Smells a bit weird, of manure, earthy notes, grapes, musty, some roasted malts. Very weird mix, doesn't do it for me.

t - Tastes of eartyh notes, light roasted malts, light chocolate, boozey, musty, bourbon. Better than the nose as there is no manure, but not great.

m - Medium body and low carbonation. Pretty smooth and easy to drink. Light alcohol.

o - Overall I thought this was by far the worst of the Veritas series. Not sure how it was fresh but it has not aged very well, as it seems a bit old and there was some weird earthy/manure notes in the taste. Wouldn't seek it out again.

Apr 24, 2012
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Huhzubendah from District of Columbia

3.03/5  rDev -24.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Consumed with all ten Veritas beers on April 14, 2012.

The beer is murky and brown with a small, broken head. The aroma offers alcohol, oddities, oak, wine, dark fruits. The flavor is not up to par with the rest of the Veritas series. Boozy, sweet, harsh. Out of balance. Tannic and biting, with overly ripened fruit soaked in booze. My least favorite of the bunch. I am a big fan of The Lost Abbey, but this one missed the mark, especially considering the company in which it was consumed.

Apr 20, 2012
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drabmuh from Maryland

3.88/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served along side of the other 9 Veritas. While I finished this one, it was in the bottom 1/3 of the group in my opinion. Probably #3 from the bottom (behind V009 and V008). Served in a Lost Abbey Teku glass. Even that awesome glass couldn't make this taste better.

Beer is brown and hazy with a lazy head, small bubbles, low retention, no lacing, moderate to low carbonation.

Aroma is strong, alcohol, raisin, acetic, solvent, sour. Smells OK.

Very oaky, very boozy, strong tannic bitterness on the back, sweet chocolate something up front, it is OK but I'm having a hard time powering through them. LIke I said, there were much much better beers in this line up than this one, I don't think I'll have it again.

Apr 19, 2012
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AgentZero from Illinois

4.07/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Props to the man Sean for opening this at our Epic post-Christmas tasting. Review #800 from hyroglifics painted on Jason's wall.

A - Wasn't necessarily expecting anything one way or the other on this, but it's a darker beer than I would have thought given my recent experiences with 008 and 007. Little bit of off-white head that left the sides of the glass clean.

S - Noticeable brett and oak, with some berry (raspberry? cherry?) and some more traditional dark fruit in there. Some good tartness and funk.

T - Not as complex as the nose indicates. Sweetness from dark fruit and berry taste with some tartness. Malts make an appearance in this, I wish it were a little more tart/sour and possibly a little less sweet, but it is good.

M - Medium bodied, lower carbonation.

O - Good beer, glad to have tried it. While it doesn't stack up to 004, 007, and 003 that I've had, it is still very good.

Apr 06, 2011
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Thorpe429 from Illinois

4.22/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Huge thanks to Sean for opening this at a recent tasting. Served in my Cantillon tulip.

Pours yields a dark brown beer with a thin light tan head that falls pretty quickly into a thin cap around the edges. The nose is one of the best aspects of this beer, bringing some oak, chocolate, mild brett, slight roast, and a touch of acid. Taste isn't quite as complex or lively, but is still quite good. Align funk combines with roast and a decent amount of carbonation for a pretty good feel. Way, way better than 008 but not nearly as good as 004 or fresh 007. Still, I was very glad to try this. Thanks gain.

Jan 04, 2011
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TurdFurgison from Ohio

4.1/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Tried during a post-Christmas tasting, courtesy of Sean9689 (thanks Sean!). This was my 3rd Veritas, and was definitely the darkest. It poured a dark amber/light brown color, translucent with a thin ring of wet foam.

It smells wild and bret-like, with light caramel malts and just a little sweet berry. On tasting it's sweet, sweeter than Veritas 004 by a mile, with maybe an aftertaste of cocoa and light fruits (more apple than raspberry). It reminds me a little of Consecration, at least based on taste, but then again I didn't try them side by side.

Light bodied, decent carbonation, dry finish. I liked it and had a very nice 3 ounces or so, could have gone for more.

Dec 30, 2010
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jrallen34 from Illinois

3.8/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml bottle thanks to Sean...Medium runny mud brown. Light tan head, really nice retention of thin but nice cap. Pretty thin lacing...The aroma is oaky, malty chocolate...The taste is ok, nothing special, lots of oak on the taste and feel. Some sour vinegar notes.

Dec 28, 2010
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mrandypandy from Georgia

3.9/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

22oz bottle shared by Grant at the Brickstore, Atlanta.

A - Pours a dark, slightly murky ruby/amber with a minimal white head. Not much lacing.
S - Interesting. My co-worker immediately picks up chocolate notes and I agree. Dark fruits (raisins, plums, dates) upon second whiff. Minimal funk.
T - Dark fruits take center stage (raisins & figs), followed by chocolate notes and a tarty funk in the finsih. Not sour, per se, just a mild tartness.
M - Lighter body, dry finish yet with well defined carbonation.
D - Not bad. I did enjoy my pour but it's not something I'd actively seek out, especially if it commands a high price.

Overall - A good brew, but nothing spectacular. The tartness was nice, but felt myself wanting more. I don't see it getting any better, so drink up if you've got one.

Nov 21, 2010
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glid02 from Georgia

4.07/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Grant - many thanks!

Pours a murky brownish-amber color with a half-finger slightly off-white head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving decent lacing.

Smells of light chocolate and dark fruits - raisins and dried plums - along with hints of funk. Also present are hints of lightly tart berry aromas.

Tastes similar to how it smells but less complex. Dark malt flavors kick things off and are joined quickly by moderately sweet dark fruit flavors. Midway through the sip the fruit flavors lighten up just a bit and acquire a lightly tart edge. Near the end of the sip hints of cocoa powder make an appearance before being brushed aside by solid amounts of funk. The funk and fruit flavors carry through to a crisp ending.

Mouthfeel is OK. It's a bit on the thin side with active carbonation.

Drinkability is good. I finished my glass without a problem and could have another.

Overall this was my least favorite of the Veritas series that I've had thus far (all but one thanks to Grant) as it seemed muddled. A nice amalgamation of flavors that just didn't seem to meld together very well. Certainly worth a shot if you have the opportunity but not worth seeking out.

Nov 20, 2010
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gford217 from Georgia

4.17/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big thanks to Sean for this bottle, shared with the Brick Store crew.

Pours a very murky tea-like brown with a small bubbly tan head that recedes immediately to almost nothing at all. No lacing to speak of.

Aroma is an interesting mix of raspberries, brown sugar and chocolate. There is also a hefty dark fruit profile in the nose with plums and raisins and only a faint funkiness in the background.

The taste starts with a bit of chocolate covered raspberries, definitely sweet. The funk is more prominent in the taste with a dry, earthy funk finish. The backbone is still full of dark sweet fruits.

The mouthfeel is well carbonated with a tingly finish with some oak spiciness and dry funk.

This is one of the least sour of the Veritas versions and features more sweet fruits than some of the others. Very tasty and glad I got the opportunity to try it.

Nov 20, 2010
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Sean9689 from Illinois

4.32/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

750ml bottle.

A - Pours a dark mirky brownish red color, although not as dark as 003. Very little head, no lacing, no retention. Some bubbles here and there on top.

S - Slight sweetness, dark fruits, mellow tart/sour. Not as sour as many other Veritas versions, but I'm enjoying the nice mix of funk and dark fruits.

T - More funky then the nose suggests. Nice dark fruit, oak, tart/sour, funk, sour cherries. The mead isn't overpowering here, it's just there enough to lend some notes of sweetness. Very nice.

M - Medium, slight bubbly carbonation, semi-dry finish.

D - Really liked this one. Not sure how it was fresh but it's really great-tasting at this time. Looking forward to seeing if this one keeps developing over time. Recommend.

Oct 10, 2010
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MasterSki from Canada (ON)

4.22/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Huge thanks to Sean for procuring this - only one Veritas left to go. Served in a tasting snifter.

A - Poured with a very thin foam that quickly settled to a partial ring, leaving behind no lace. The body is a slightly transparent dark ruby-brown color.

S - Funk of the sweet bretty variety, hefty oak, sweet raspberry in the periphery, and a sweet graham cracker malt backbone. Quite good stuff!

T - Sweeter and more smoothed out than the nose. Sugary malt, tart apples and raspberry. It's not exceptionally complex, but it's quite enjoyable and avoids being cloying.

M - Medium body, dry, a touch watery in the finish. There's a bit of warmth that emerges, but it's not harsh and doesn't show up in the aroma or flavor.

D - This was a pleasant surprise. It sounds like the bottles have held up much better than the keg that appeared at Stone Sour Fest. The mead is understated but adds some nice fruit flavors. I heard this is replicable, so I hope Tomme makes some more in the future.

Oct 10, 2010
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brokensail from California

4.27/5  rDev +6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A huge thanks to Ryan for sharing this one at Sour Fest.

A: The pour is a muddled brownish color that has some hints of orange/copper to it and almost no head.

S: The nose is sweet and quite fruity. Notes of plums, raisins, figs, and perhaps some cherry in there somewhere. The fruits work well with the slight tartness that is there, and the mead provides an interesting balance.

T: The flavor is similarly complex with perhaps a touch more of the sour coming through. Slightly lemony with the raisins and plums being the most notable fruits. Good malt and mead/honey-like sweetness once again.

M: The body is medium with a sort of soft carbonation to it.

D: This is really a unique beer. I had heard this one wasn't doing so well, and perhaps it is past its prime, but I still found this to be quite an enjoyable drinking experience.

Jul 20, 2010
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bulletrain76 from California

4.2/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

75cl bottle shared at The Bruery reserve party last weekend. hazy brown with a small head. Lightly acidic aroma with rich toasty malt, lemon, wood, and light alcohol. Malty and rich flavor with caramel, cherry, oak, and a sour finish. Medium-full body. Pretty damn good stuff with caramel, tartness, and oak in great balance.

Jan 25, 2010
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satowns from Colorado

2.88/5  rDev -28.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

finally posting review; tasted summer 2008 alongside veritas 01, 03 and cuvee and westy 8 and 12.

from Tomme: "sour base with Redstone blackberry mead and Old Viscosity"

murky garnett color, decent head retention.

scents of black malt, alcohol and dried fruits.

faint brett/horseyness. slight salty/soy character. Light fruit; blackberry. Light and bright. flavor is not very clean; muddled. could benefit from extended aging.

This beer doesnt really stand out. its not bad in any sense. I think i just had the veritas up on a's not screaming for me to come back. I appreaciate the artistic effort that Tomme continues to put on table!

Nov 02, 2009
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craytonic from District of Columbia

4.12/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Deep copper/amber, essentially flat, no head or lacing.

Smell: Vinous, with raspberries, honey, dates, plums, strawberries, raisins, brown sugar, wood

Taste: Sweet and sour, lots of raspberries, honey, dates, blackberries, and other fruits - plums, strawberries, raisins, brown sugar, wood. Very sweet. Definitely not as sour as 001, which hurts in my opinion.

Mouthfeel: Very full mouthfeel, a bit syrupy

Drinkability: A sipper, I didn't have the "where did it go" moment with 002 that I had with 001.

*NB - Drink this now if you haven't already, on the hill down from its prime, although not as bad as what some reviewers suggest. Probably at the bottom of the Veritas series, in my opinion. Sad to see it slammed in reviews for the age, not sure it is worth writing a negative review if the beer has clearly passed its prime - kinda like complaining the milk is bad after its expiration date. Luckily my bottle was just a few steps south.

Aug 10, 2009
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socalde from California

2.49/5  rDev -38.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Tried this at Stone Sour Fest '09. I agree with many of the other reviewers here that this was the biggest disappointment of all the beers I tired at Sour Fest.

A- Reminiscent of a brown ale with a hint of dark red. Extremely fast head dissipation, no lace or signs or remnant signs of carbonation.

S - Almost medicinal. Right away I knew something went wrong with this beer. I noticed a strong cherry scent as well as something else, possibly currants. After taking a nice long whiff of this I can't say I was looking forward to what came next.

T- Overly malty and sweet, even for Belgian Strong, which is a malty style to begin with. Noticeably under attenuated. What comes to mind is a first time home-brewer's attempt at a fruit infused ale.

M- Feels like soda that has been sitting in the fridge a few hours. Not flat, but unsatisfying nonetheless.

D- So thick and malty, not something I would share with friends.

Jul 25, 2009
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Overlord from California

2.93/5  rDev -27.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Got to try this during the Stone Sour Fest. This was the first beer I sampled, before the UNGODLY KILN-LIKE HEAT began to destroy my will to live. It was the one I most looked forward to.

Easily the biggest disappointment of the Sourfest(tm).

Smells like overripe, sickly raspberries, and a bit of caramel. Pours a dark, maybe slightly ruddy brown. I couldn't get over the smell ... sweet smelling, literally overripe fruit.

Taste was, again, surprisingly sweet. Ugh. It seems like the raspberries either had gone bad, something has happened during the aging process, or oxidation has decimated them. Too much sickly sweet raspberry, maybe a hint of pucker, and more sweetness in the form of caramel and some dark fruits.

The taster was more than enough.

Jul 20, 2009
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seaoflament from California

3.8/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This was the first beer I went for at Stone Sour Fest 09...not the one I wanted to try the most, because I've had the opportunity to try it once before, but because I knew a lot of people wanted to try this and I wanted to get it out of the way first and have the chance to review it.

Pours a dark cherry color, brown, looks reminiscent to Red Poppy. A nice half inch of foam forms on the top.

The aroma is of brown sugar, sweet and tart cherries, lemon acidity, toasted malts, raspberry jam, and toasted bread.

The taste is sweeter than anticipated. More mead dominance now, at least since the last time I tried it a few months ago. Dark fruits mid-palate, raisins, dates, black cherries, with a sugary and slightly tart finish. More raspberry flavor later on.

Moderate carbonation with a clean finish, a bit effervescent. A little too sweet now but still quite drinkable.

Had a chance to try this last year and the beer was a little more tart back then, clearly the mead is taking review takes into account my memory of this beer from last year. Still, I think this one is drinkable as it is now.

Jul 20, 2009
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antilogic from California

4.57/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Lost Abbey Barrel Tasting, 11/15/08

The mead really jumps at at me and provides a surprisingly good mix. This Veritas is the only repeatable recipe to date, which is a good thing, and I would gladly drink it again. Tomme did say they can't distribute it easily due to the mixing of two alcohol types (beer and mead).

Color is garnet, small, white head on my taster. Taste is of fruits (raspberry), some light tart sourness, maybe some vanilla and other flavors from the wood. One of the best Lost Abbey beers I've had.

Dec 12, 2008
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hopdog from Pennsylvania

4.12/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap.

Poured a medium to deeper brown color -reddish tinted- with a small sized off white head. Aromas of wood, chocolate, earthy, vinous, and some dark fruitiness. Tastes of raspberries, dark fruits, raisins, plums, and lighter wood. This one was definitely on the sweet side with a very light tart finish.

Dec 09, 2008
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0110x011 from California

4.74/5  rDev +17.6%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at the Lost Abbey Barrel Tasting, 11/15/08

Pours blood red with a tiny wisp of a head. Nose is raspberries, earth, funk, and alcohol. Dark fruit and funk hit the palate first. The raspberry takes some time to pull through, but eventually coalesces with plum, earth, funk, and leather quite nicely. A medium tartness provides balance to the fruity sweetness. Light body, but a longer finish than I expected. Were this widely available, i could drink it all night.

Another exceptional beer from Lost Abbey. According to Tomme, the blend is such that they can produce it with more regularity than the other Veritas beers. I will seek this out any day.

Nov 18, 2008
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GClarkage from California

4.12/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

11/15/08- Had on tap at the Bistro Barrel Aged fest in Hayward, CA.

Presentation- Via the tap into taster size glasses.

Appearance- Deep ruby red approaching brown colored pour. Dirty white an lightly pochy slight head. Very slight watery like lace markings left behind.

Smell- Smells quite fruity and quite sugary at the same time. Maybe a raspberry souffle like nose.

Taste- Sweetness overpowers the sour in this beer. Quite bready sweet malt with the added raspberry or marionberry like flavor. Assuming a bit of brett was added to give it a bit of a sour punch to balance it a bit. Supposedly a mead style beer.

Mouthfeel- Very smooth, sweet sticky and fuller mouthfeel with a lower carbonation level.

Drinkability- The mouthfeel really did it for me, in addition to the good flavor. A dessert like beer that would work good with a fruited cheesecake.

Nov 17, 2008
Veritas 002 from The Lost Abbey
Beer rating: 90 out of 100 with 48 ratings