Veritas 003
The Lost Abbey

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Wild Ale
4.28 | pDev: 9.11%
The Lost Abbey
California, United States
Retired (no longer brewed)
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oline73 from Maryland

4/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Another bottle shared by Tomme and crew. Poured into a tasting snifter.

Appearance: Pours a reddish amber color with just a ring of off white head.

Smell: Sweet and tart with some cherries and funk. I'm getting some brown sugar sweetness from the malt.

Taste: Brown sugar notes from the malt right off the bat. Tart fruit notes along with some funk. The cherries are nice with the sweet and sour flavors. The finish is sour and a little bitter.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with fluffy, tingly carbonation and a slick finish.

Overall: This is a complex beer. The tartness is rather smooth. I really enjoyed the malt sweetness combined with the sour flavors.

Jul 03, 2012
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claaark13 from Indiana

4.08/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks Johnfrompurdue. I figured I'd never see this one.

Pours somewhere between a ruby and light brown. Good head, good retention. Musty sour faded red wine grapes on the nose, slight oak. Taste shows soured old grapes, slight oak, little amount of sweetness and dryness balancing each other and neither really come through. Nicely carbonated and great on the palate.

I know this is supposed to have fallen off, but for not having it before it is a very well done AWA.

Jun 17, 2012
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mdfb79 from New York

4.15/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

From 04/14/12 notes. Had this one at the DC Lambic & Sour Tasting as part of a full Veritas set, 001-010.

a - Pours a murky dark mahogany brown color with one inch of off white head and light carbonation evident. Looks just like Veritas 002.

s - Smells of sour cherries and dark fruits, light oak, alcohol, and roasted malts. Reminds me of Veritas 001 though not as strong or sour.

t - Tastes of sour cherries, tart dark fruits, bourbon, roasted malts, oak, alcohol. Taste is not as sour as the nose. Again, like a poor man's Veritas 001.

m - Medium body and light carbonation. Easy to drink beer, great mouthfeel.

o - Overall I thought this was a good beer, btu I preferred Veritas 001 to this quite a bit. Both had sour cherries and dark fruits to them, but this was just a bit weaker in the nose and taste. A good beer worth seeking out, but I'd rather have 001.

Apr 24, 2012
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Huhzubendah from District of Columbia

4.15/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Shared at a ridiculous tasting last weekend. Consumed with all ten Veritas beers on April 14, 2012.

The beer is mahogany hued with a small off white head. The aroma offers wine, oak, tannins, fruit, acidity, cherries. Very tasty beer. The flavor is bold, yet smooth, while still achieving balance - impressive. Cherries come through in the flavor, though not nearly in the same manner as a kriek. Light in body and enjoyable to drink. Overall, this was quite tasty, though not on par with 004-006.

Apr 20, 2012
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drowland from Georgia

4.78/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared by jtclockwork. Jan/Feb of 2011, I believe. Not quite clear shining ruby red color with a small off-white head. Funky aroma with a hint of cheese, sour, bourbon, and more. Big sour flavor with dark cherries, wood, more sour, bitter wood and bourbon, and general awesomeness. This stuff is amazing!

Feb 05, 2012
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Bmoyer0301 from Pennsylvania

4.47/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5


Very surprised to hear a generous pop from the bottle when we slid the cork out. On the pour this baby came out a deep brown rusty murky red color with a fair amount of haze. When I was done I was left with a thin half finger thick tan colored head that seemed prickly and disappeared quickly. Not much viscosity on the glass when I gave a swirl.


Huge burst of cherry pie and tart acid like aromas that over take my snifter. Some lacto caramel like bread flavors are poking through. Lots of woody vanilla flavors on top of more vinegar sherry oxidized fruits.


Wow, big hit of tartness and cherry flavors. I am not sure if this beer eventually morphed into Red Poppy or not but it really taste like cuvee de tomme and Red Poppy on steroids. Dark plums, funk, wood tannins and more over ripened cherries. with some oxidation due to age this is fantastic and really makes it a slow sipper and lets me enjoy the small nuances


Glad this one was busted out on my birthday weekend. it was a real treat and was enjoyed with some great friends. A over the top sour ale that was and delicious. drinkability was pretty slow only becuase I wanted to savor the flavors. Really wish another one of these would cross my path.

Dec 12, 2011
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koopa from New Jersey

4.3/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

REVIEW # 800

750ml caged and corked bottle poured into a Captain Lawrence flute styled tulip commemorative glass.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy mahogany with nice red folds. Displays a 2 finger khaki crown that has moderate retention and decent lace.

Smell: Grapes/red wine, cherries, hints of tart bretty lemon, and a hint of lactic sourness.

Taste: Same as nose but with more depth of character including a hint of leather.

Mouthfeel: Thick side of medium bodied with ample carbonation (how did Lost Abbey learn to do that?)

Drinkability: A very sessionable sour in my opinion.

Aug 07, 2011
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scottfrie from California

4/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Huge thanks to colonelforbin for sharing his bottle. Thanks Mike!

A: Pours a murky wooden brown with a thin tan collar for a head.
S: Tart, stanky, earthy and herbal notes with a touch of light fruits.
T: Tame tartness, good flavors of sour funk, vinous fruits and maybe even berries. The finish is dry and woody. I also get some slight tobacco. Well hidden alcohol.
M: Tingly carbonation, good sour mouthfeel but not acidic. Fairly mellow. Medium-full body.
O: Good sour, manageable but complex. Thanks again for sharing Mike.

Jun 25, 2011
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kbutler1 from Minnesota

4.41/5  rDev +3%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle. Poured into a tulip glass a murky cider color, extremely hazy, with a light tan head that collars around the glass. The aroma is interesting with notes of sour tart fruit, woodiness, and an underlying acetic flavor. Light mouthfeel with surprisingly good carbonation. The taste is pretty interesting as well with lots of barrel flavors, red wine characteristics (dryness and red wine flavor), some bitterness. Starts off with some sweet tartness and then moves into the barrel, wine, and funk flavors. All of this is blended with a fairly mild sour taste with a dose of funkiness. The alcohol isn't really apparent. There are so many flavors going on in this! Pretty easy drinking. Overall, this is a very complex beer with so much going on, in a good way.

Dec 14, 2010
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jminsc76 from Texas

4.55/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Courtesy of alexd3891, who sat on this (God I hope not literally) for I believe two years?

Into a tulip, pours a large, angry head resulting from a nice buildup of carbonation. Thick legs as I tilt, with a body almost a murky mahogony in color. The head re-agitates nicely.

Aromas primarily exhibit a blend of oak and sour cherries, with hints of red wine and Bretty funk piercing the nostrils. Medium in intensity, and very refreshing. I could *whiff* this one for awhile.

A lot of lactic sourness on the mid-point of the palate as well as the finish, with the blend of oak, sour cherries, red wine, and slight vinegar (not a significant quantity) creating such a complex yet nuanced blend of flavors, I wouldn't know presently how to determine them all. It's...different. Yet delicious.

Mouthfeel is thick, soft, and quite tingly.

Overall, Veritas 003 = Red Poppy with a serious upgrade by its good friend Brett. So smooth, complex, yet off-key in its flavors. Consequently, my first impression was puzzlement, which quickly turned into pleasure when I continued sipping and accepted what was before me.

Dec 14, 2010
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Exiled from Texas

4.5/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml Bottle

Pours a hazy amber color, with a nice off white head. Smell is sour cherries, caramel malt, toffee, oak, vanilla, and some funk. Taste is nice sour cherries, sweet caramel malt, brown sugar, with some oak flavors. Medium mouthfeel, and good carbonation. Overall one of the best sours I have had.

Oct 13, 2010
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Mora2000 from Texas

4.42/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Glad I finally got to try this beer.

The beer pours a hazy brown color with a white head. The aroma is outstanding. I get a lot of tart cherries, with some oak and bourbon notes mixed in. The flavor is similar, but even more complex. I get a lot of tart cherries, oak, vanilla, whiskey, brown sugar and barrel characteristics. The tartness is about medium and compliments the flavor very well. Medium carbonation and medium aroma.

Oct 12, 2010
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drabmuh from Maryland

4.27/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared by bmanning, my first veritas, Thanks!

Beer is murky and on the red / brown border in the beer spectrum. Forms a thin head of tiny bubbles that rally but fail form a proper head or decent lacing on the glass. Its a sour so all is forgiven in the head dynamics department.

Definitely some citric and acetic in the nose of this one. There is some sweetness and tartness from cherries or stone fruits in there as well. Mild funk.

Beer is thin and weakly carbonated on the mouth. The sourness from the acetic gives the beers a brightness and the lactic is the lead off. There is some tartness at the backend of the whole thing and it finishes cleansingly. Its a good beer, a very good American sour. The finish is mildly dry but its not too dry. Its a good beer. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Oct 08, 2010
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Thorpe429 from Illinois

4.57/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Thanks to bmanning for bringing this to a recent tasting.

Pours a moderate mahogany with a thin tan head and a bit of lacing. Nose brings forward lactic and acetic character alongside cherries, dark fruits, oak, and a bit of wet leather. Taste carries forward some of the Belgian elements along with some cherries. Nice lactic and acetic balance with a bit of funk and oak as well. Mouthfeel is nice and dry, yet isn't too thing. This drinks really well. This dark wild ale is one of those small substyles that I really wish would catch on a bit more.

Oct 06, 2010
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brokensail from California

4.05/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A big thanks to James for cracking this one open to share.

A: The pour is dark amber/brown in color with a finger's worth of off-white head and plenty of carbonation bubbles.

S: A blend of acetic and lactic acids on the nose along with some sour cherries and other dark fruits such as plums and berries. Quite a bit of oak as well.

T: Sour cherries and blackberries up front provide quite a bit of tartness along with some red wine vinegar and tannic oak. A slight citrus quality at points, too.

M: The body is medium with plenty of carbonation and a dry and puckering finish.

D: A nice sour ale, though leaning a little bit more on the vinegar side of things than I would prefer, but still in balance.

Sep 07, 2010
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nickd717 from California

4.37/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

What better beer for rating #1003 than Veritas 003? None I say! 750ml bottle via trade thanks to Sean9689, shared at a tasting featuring some of the world's premiere BARTs (barrel aged rarity tickers).

Pours cloudy brown in color with a well-formed light tan head that leaves a thick bubbly ring on the glass.

Aroma is toffee, red wine, leather, oak barrel, and funk. Smells very nice.

The flavor has a slight barleywine-like sweetness with caramel and toffee malt. There is a great dry -bal aged note with oak and vanilla as well as an awesome funky tartness. Really leathery. Rather vinous as well - lots of red wine.

Acidic on the palate with a good carbonation level and medium body.

A great beer overall, one of my favorites in the series so far (haven't yet ticked 002 or 005).

Aug 18, 2010
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MasterSki from Canada (ON)

4.05/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to Nick for supplying this one last night. Served in a tulip glass.

A - Pours with a finger of ecru foam that settles to a thick collar and leaves behind spotty lace. Dark brown body that is light at the fringes.

S - Funky and acetic, with strong sour cherry notes, as well as oaken barrel, caramel, butterscotch, and brown sugar.

T - The taste is a fair bit more sour, with red wine vinegar and acetic acid character. There's some tart fruit character as well. Apparently this is developing with age and was significantly sweeter back in the day - you can still taste some Angel's Share type flavors in the periphery, but the wild yeast and bacteria has taken over a good way.

M - Fairly zesty but still soft carbonation, with a slightly dry and tannic finish. Body is medium-full that is sufficiently hefty for the alcohol content, and is quite smooth. Not much obvious heat.

D - This isn't the quickest drinking beer, but it's still plenty enjoyable. Again, it seems a little primitive compared to later beers in the series, but the combination of flavors works better than Veritas 001 and the flavor seems to have developed and integrated in a more satisfying manner.

Aug 10, 2010
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AgentZero from Illinois

3.67/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Had this right after Veritas 004, and sadly, it did not stack up.

A - A ruby brown color, small off-white head that dissipated to a small cap and had a little bit of lacing. Okay looking, but just slightly better than average.

S - Very oaky and deep. Some funk, a lot of wood influence, and touches of berries. Slight phenol smell as well. Not bad, a little tart.

T - Oak influnence with some malts. Deep, very full taste, but it's not overly complex. Some sweet berriness that never rises to a level it should be. Touch of booze and a little grainy.

M - Medium bodied and a decent bit of carbonation.

D - Not a great beer, and didn't stack up to the Veritas 004 at all. Drinkable, but not something I care if I ever have again.

Jun 24, 2010
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SpeedwayJim from New York

3.68/5  rDev -14%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Provided by me! Opened at a tasting 5/29/10. 4oz. pour from a 750ml corked and caged bottle into a snifter. Reviewed from notes.

A: Pours a 1 finger quickly dissipating off-white, coarse head. Beer is a cloudy brownish-purple... like cherry infused mud water. No lacing to speak of.

S: Cherries, caramel, brown sugar sweetness, wood, and funk. There's a lot going on here but between the deep brown ale notes and the fruity esthers trying to fight their way through, I'm a little confused at what's going on.

T: Cherry, raspberries, citrus, chocolate, nuttiness, oak, and red fruit tartness throughout. A building booziness finally peaks its head towards the end. Finish is messy and leaves an aftertaste of slightly grainy nuttiness.

M: Medium bodied, good carbonation, and a bit rough around the edges. Coarse in the mouth but also oddly sticky at the finish. Aftertaste is messy and leaves ample flavor on the palate.

D: I'm honestly thoroughly dissapoint with this one. The alleged cuvee de tomme in this beer just completely dominates the experience and whatever else is in here just doesn't really have a chance to separate itself from the overwhelming flavors of that beer. This isn't bad by any means but its not all its cracked up to be at all. Not one of my more memorable sours by a longshot.

May 30, 2010
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jrallen34 from Illinois

3.97/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I drank this at dld into my tasting cup. I had this amongst a ton of others sours and this was the worst(yellow bus, veritas 004, cable car).

The beer pours a medium cloudy brown, with a medium tan head, ok retention and lacing.

The aroma is dominated by oak, you can really pull out mostly the cuvee de tomme here, which to me isn't a great bear. You get a little sour but mostly oak.

The taste is the same, mostly oak, finished with some sour. Its not very balanced and totally lacking a little sweetness to balance things out.

Overall, a decent ale, nothing to search out, and not at all on the upper echelon of ales.

Apr 25, 2010
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Deuane from Pennsylvania

4.45/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Thanks to CoolJosh and Treyrab for inviting us "old folks" to the EPIC day long PSU Graduation Tasting-5/9/09!

A-Slightly hazed, deep reddish copper with a thin light tan head that held on strong and left spotty lace.

S-Musty, oak, sour cherry and while all of this is rather light it is quite pleasant and surprisingly complex.

T-Sharp and biting. So like a liquid Sweet-tart candy it is uncanny! No vinegar at all but rather sharp, biting sour cherry fruit and citric acid qualities. Mysterious hint of chocolate in the background. Dry oak finish builds as it warms.

M-Light bodied super crisp and tart. Long lingering tartness and oak dryness.

D-Whoa! Simply a masterful blend! So crisp and sharp with LOTS of flavour plus it goes down SO easy! This is a sour I could put away by the gallon!

Mar 31, 2010
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hoppymcgee from Maine

4.44/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Split a bottle 4 ways with some great friends on 3/5/10. Poured into a Bruery tulip glass at room temperature.

A: Murky reddish/copper/dark brown with a surprising amount of carbonation from the pour which lingers around. A very "welcoming" looking beer.

S: Exceptional! Cherries, raspberries, oaky "wet" wood, and a tinge of caramelly booze invigorate your nostrils.

T: An immediate sensation of lemon, followed by wood that's sat in a pile of hay, and tart cherries. This finishes funky and has the essence of orange peel when you lick your lips afterwards.

M: Carbonation does not really "hit" you when swallowed. It more notably spreads and covers your palate for a pleasant drinking experience.

D: Nothing is too overbearing about this beer. At the most it gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside.

Overall, I was very impressed although I can't say I've tried any of the other Veritas. Let me tell you now - this stuff goes straight to the dome!

Mar 11, 2010
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Ineedabeerhere from Massachusetts

4.15/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks a ton to Greg for sharing this one last weekend. Reviewed from notes, 3.5.10.

Pours darkish overall with equal parts ruby and burnt orange after a lackluster cork pop...some filmy foam attempts to form a head but not much more than a half finger or so. A spot of lace clings here and there - hey at least it's more carbonated than the 001.

Really needed to let this one warm up to reveal all the things going on here in the aroma. Angels share dominates a little more than I would prefer, contributing flavors of vanilla, toffee and unfortunately, a good amount of booze through the back. More redeeming qualities of raisins, berries, cherries, and a musty woodiness become apparent as well. Wet wood. The booze is a little distracting.... this is a sneakily robust beer.

The taste is equally as interesting as the aroma... berries and fruit... fruitier than the aroma would have suggested. Some slick mustiness exacerbated by the low carbonation and tart under-ripe fruit. Moderately tannic with a substantial woodiness. Some spice notes bordering on medicinal, but really minor in the grand scheme of things. Merlot flavors, caramel and toffee lead into some booze in the drying finish.

Really happy to have had the chance to try this one, but my feeling is that maybe some of the brighter flavors have faded or become muddled over time and allowed a little too much of the strength of angels share to become apparent. A little more carbonation would have helped to lift the heaviness of some of these flavors as well. A nicely blended beer and I wish I could've tried it at its peak, but it is certainly no slouch at this point either.

Mar 10, 2010
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largadeer from California

4.31/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle generously shared by cpferris. Thanks, Chad.

The pour is a beautiful clear mahogany, in the glass it's dark but strikingly clear, topped by a billowing frothy head that's fed by a torrent of carbonation.

Brown sugar, cherry pie, bourbon and sour dark fruit hit the nose first, with further inspection revealing a bit of mustiness, funk and oak.

Dark fruit and caramel meet tannic oak on the tongue, both sour and sweet with a big oaky backbone. I detect flavors of raisin, tobacco, bourbon and red wine. The body is medium, almost full, but the high carbonation helps to cut the heft of the body, making for a surprisingly refreshing beer. Another excellent blend from Lost Abbey.

Feb 19, 2010
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tpd975 from Florida

3.67/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a darkish brown hue with amber tones showing through. Small off white head that quickly disappears. No lace noted.

S: Lots of dark fruits with tart black cherry leading the way. Hints of caramel with bold oak to match the tartness.

T: Too much wood. Very very oaky. Lots of cherry tartness, light brett and some vanilla. Dark fruit in the middle with very light chocolate notes. Light aspirin with a hint of something chemical or plastic near the finish. Don't really come together like the other Veritas blends I have had.

M: Medium in body, okay carbonation.

D: Not the most enjoyable beer. May have been better fresh.

Jan 28, 2010
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Beer rating: 94 out of 100 with 99 ratings