Veritas 007
The Lost Abbey

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Wild Ale
4.54 | pDev: 7.49%
The Lost Abbey
California, United States
Retired (no longer brewed)
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jegross2 from Illinois

4.5/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Reviewing the infamous Veritas 007 from The Lost Abbey out of San Marcos, California.

Score: 95

2010 vintage bottle served in a stemmed Cantillon flute and enjoyed on 04/26/14. Review is from iPhone notes.

Appearance: Pours a translucent, vibrant orange color with a finger of fizzy white head that settles to a thin layer. 4.75/5

Smell: Fruit, grape, vinegar and lemon. Light must and funk. 4.5/5

Taste: Tastes just like it smells. Musty, tart grape, a little lemon and a light vinegar character without any big acidic bite. A little grapefruit too and a kiss of oak. 4.5/5

Mouthfeel: Medium carbonation, light bodied -- both appropriate for the style and flavor profile. Has a nice dryness and acidity that help accentuate the tartness, though this beer is not as puckering as an Upland sour. 4.5/5

Overall: Was expecting more funk, but this beer pleasantly under-delivered on the funk character. This was one of my favorite beers from the Veritas series that I have had the opportunity to sample.

Cost: $250 for a 750 ml bottle (secondary market price).

May 22, 2014
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Alieniloquium from Florida

3.89/5  rDev -14.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750 mL bottle poured into a snifter.

Appearance - Deep hazy orange with no head. A few bubbles and a thin collar. Not a lot else going on.

Smell - Citrus acidity and some grape/white wine like fruits. Oak.

Taste - Quite sour. Light fruits surround the sourness. Some malts. A bit of acetic acid and oak in the finish.

Mouthfeel - Medium body. Oaky and dry. Low carbonation.

Overall - This has probably lost a lot of complexity over the years. Pretty good right now though.

Jun 10, 2013
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popery from California

4.13/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Lots of wood, fruit and soured malt flavors. I guess I was expecting some kind of religious experience from my first taste (might have tried one other awhile back) of a Veritas, and it didn’t quite live up to that. Still, it was a very nice sour. The sour was pronounced and went well with the malt notes. Blackberries, oak, citrus rind, wine, restrained funk. I might appreciate this one more with a larger taste. Finishes with a pucker. Quite dry and probably getting drier. Pours a hazy, fading red. Little to no head, and what was there dissipated quickly. Very good stuff.

Jan 28, 2013
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jvillefan from New York

4.71/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

A: That hazy deep yellow/orange that is from unfiltered beer with caramel malts.

S: You can tell that the beer your about to drink is going to beer sour. Estery and sulfurous.

T: Tart and sour is 90% of the taste of this beer. One of the best sours I've had. There is very subtle caramel flavor n the background.

M: A little viscous. Very carbonated which is excellent. The sharp bitterness from the carbonation goes really well with the sour.

O: Top 3 sours I've ever had. Give anything to trade for this beer.

Jan 27, 2013
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hooliganlife from Missouri

4.43/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

BIG BIG thanks to beachrez for this.

pours a faint purple, almost rose colored. light red grape juice.

very tart, sour, puckering grape with ripe cheese. light oak.

light grape, starts off faint and grows. towards the finish it becomes very bright then blends with the dank dry oak. some light cheese and funk, but very sour and mouth puckering. a bit sweet tart like at times.

perfect carbonation IMO, dry oak finish that makes leaves your mouth just aching for water.

i detect a hint of isabelle but overall, very cantillon lamvinus like. very enjoyable!

Nov 27, 2012
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scottfrie from California

3.97/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks for sharing Brian! Snifter.

A: Light apricot color with a fair amount of fine sediment fill my glass beneath a short lived white head.
S: Very fruity nose, golden fruits, stone fruits, vinous, slight vinegar and biting acid.
T: Clean acid, citrus, strong stone fruits are strong along with white wine and vinous grapes.
M: Very frothy carb that bubbles up in my mouth. Light body, acidic but relatively smooth mouthfeel.
O: A very solid sour, fruity, and easy to drink. A little chunky, but that’s ok. Careful, this one is definitely carbonated.

Sep 05, 2012
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cosmicevan from New York

4.77/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

And the hits just keep coming! Thank you a million times over to Pete for busting out this gem at an impromtu tasting on 8/10.

a - poured a murky orange with a thin bubbly head that was gone quick but was easily rebuilt with a swirl of my glass.

s - pretty sour. some fruitiness. good tart and some green grape.

t - puckeringly sour. outrageous flavor combo of sour with fruity green grapes on the finish.

m - smooth but sour. a bit pucker worthy.

o - overall, what can i say? 007 shortly after 004 and DDG!!! this beer is insanely amazing, but not quite the 004.

Aug 17, 2012
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illidurit from California

4.42/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared at Eagle Rock during RBSG 2012. Pale hazy gold color with a wispy white head. Reminds me very much of Temptation, but with a more harsh sourness, perhaps more acetic. Lemony with lactic and citric notes, mild grape sweetness, crabapple. Modest funkiness.

Aug 16, 2012
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oline73 from Maryland

3.58/5  rDev -21.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Another bottle opened up at the DC Lost Abbey tasting. Poured from the bottle into a tasting snifter.

Appearance: Pours a cloudy ruby red color with a ring of off white head.

Smell: This beer smells very tart and funky with some fruity notes showing up in the background. Rather mild.

Taste: The flavor is much stronger than the smell was. Vinegar sourness with some funk. Grape flavor compliments the sour notes rather well. Not as fruity as the 005. The sour finish borderlines on harsh.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with light and foamy carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: I liked the 005 better, but this was still a solid brew. If it was a bit less abrasive, it would be nicer.

Jul 13, 2012
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DovaliHops from California

4.5/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer pours a hazy yellow/amber color with a light pinkish hue to it. Nice white head that diminishes quite quickly. Carbonation has held up nicely with this beer. Scent is immediately lactic aroma with some citrus and vinegar. Some nice red wine aromas with red grapes and some oak. Good amount of funk. Taste is amazing. This is my second Veritas…the first I had was 009. That beer is significantly different than this 007, but they each are amazing in their own way. Amazing grapefruit-orange/citrus tartness with some sour grape and raspberry flavors. It has characteristics of a much more red/pink colored wild ale…yet those same flavors flow through this blonde-pink ale. Mouthfeel is acidic and medium bodied. Perfectly carbonated IMO. Overall, I can’t compare to 009 considering it is a WAY different beer. This one was amazing though. Absolutely loved it!

Jul 08, 2012
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starrdogg from District of Columbia

4.2/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thank you to me for contributing this to the Lost Abbey tasting.

Pours a hazy golden/blond color with a thin white head. The aroma here is very subtle, it's nice - a great sour smell with some red wine grapes, but I wish there was more going on. Flavor is quite nice here, it's very sour with a little bit of red wine grape flavor, but the oak plays a prominent role as well. Generally it's a great blond sour, but there's not as much going on here as I had hoped. Mouthfeel is light-medium bodied with nice carbonation and a prickly sour feel. Overall, considering expectations vs. pay-off, this might be the most disappointing of the entire Lost Abbey tasting. It's a good sour, but this one didn't have any real standout characteristics here.

Jul 02, 2012
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Huhzubendah from District of Columbia

4.52/5  rDev -0.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Consumed with all ten Veritas beers on April 14, 2012. Shared by yourefragile. Thanks Michael.

The beer is yellow with pink highlights, and mildly hazy with a thin, fleeting head. The aroma offers grapes, assorted tart fruit, oak, funk. Another winner from The Lost Abbey. This beer is extremely flavorful and brings a powerful and aggressive tartness in the finish. Wow, this flight of Veritas (004-007) is pretty mind blowing. Highly recommended. I would love to have this again.

Apr 22, 2012
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Enish266 from California

4.33/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at City Beer Store. $7 for a 7 oz pour served in a flute.

A - ruby red grapefruit with a slight haziness.

S - minimal funkiness with a burst of sharp citrus.

T - can't really ask more out of an American Wild Ale. First your taste buds are hit with a tinge of vinegar followed by sour orange-grapefruit blast. There are some raspberry flavors that finish up the sip quite nicely.

M - medium carbonation that coats the tongue but doesn't linger. Finishes mouth-puckeringly and lingers just enough for you to want more.

O - glad to get to try this and wish I had a bottle or two of this gem.

Feb 17, 2012
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jethrodium from California

4.2/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at City Beer Store. Pours a pinkish amber with no head, just a couple of bubbles at the edge of the glass. The aroma has a lot of funky brett, with some lemon, raspberry, grape skin, some lactic, cherry, and a bit of oak. The taste is quite tart with lemon, raspberry, a lot of funky brett, and some grape skin. The finish is dry, oaky, and funky with a decent amount of astringency. Light body with low carbonation. It could have used more carbonation, but it was still quite a great beer.

Feb 15, 2012
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ktrillionaire from Florida

4.97/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Big thanks to heyohhh for the share. Now this is a hell of a brew. The pour is slightly pinkish, efferevescent, translucent, and results in vague white wisps atop the brew; good-looking. The aroma immediately announces some funk, and fruity acidity, in the most delicious way possible. Notes of tart cherry and sharp tannin are in the nose, along with some red wine-like notes. As it airs out, I appreciate the aroma more like some sort of tart berry melange. Flavor-wise, it is tart from the get-go, and never lets up. Really, this is just about perfect for me. Notes of fruit are implied, but not overly so; nuances include raspberry, cherry, cranberry, currant, tart-tannic red grape, all expressed in a minor and partial sense. The funk and acidity in this beer are evocative of Cantillons such as Fou Foune and 100% Kriek Lambic, which is to say it is a potent, musty, wild and delectable thing. Overall, I like this brew just about as much as I can like a brew.

Nov 21, 2011
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AgentZero from Illinois

4.5/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A - Pinkish colored beer with a bit of orange in there. Appropriate white head on it that left some good lace and stick on the sides of the glass.

S - Nice tartness with some grape and fruit aromas. Really can't complain about this, tartness is spot on and the fruit helps to add a touch of needed sweetness.

T - Nice beries, grapes and a wonderful tartness. There's a nice acidity to this with helps to add to the pucker factor of this beer.

M - Pretty light, good carbonation, very dry.

O - Very sour great taste. If you like sours this is a hell of a beer that I'd love to try again.

Nov 17, 2011
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Ynot2 from California

4.92/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured from a 750 bottle into a snifter. Shared at a tasting at Abelcalls place with a few other BAs, 007, 008, and 009 back to back to back. Cork popped with good carbonation and no gusher.

A nice peachy, orangish, tangerine kind of color with a small white head.

The aroma was tart apples, barnyard funk and lemons. Beautiful nose on this, one of my absolute favorite beers as far as aromas.

Taste is tart, sour, funky right off the bat. The sourness is in your face at first and then a wet hay barn yard funkiness and ends with a dry finishing strawberry taste. Hard to write how good this tastes.

Mouthfeel is nice. Good amount of carbonation, dry enough and tart.

An overall outstanding beer. The best Lost Abbey I have had. Wish I had more of this. I have had the 004, 007, 008, and the 009, the 007 is tops. Damn good beer, props to Tomme and crew.

Nov 05, 2011
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SpdKilz from Illinois

4.6/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Yet another amazing beer shared by Sean9689 at Zwanze Day 2011. Another of my top wants/ticks (and after I had this beer I got my hands on one).

Appearance – Pours into a Cantillon tulip with a tangerine hue. About a half finger of white head fizzes up and leaves slight lacing.

Smell – Having Beatification right before this, the aroma for this beer is more balanced. Dry barnyard funk, ripe granny smith green apples, oak, lemons, just a hint of vinegar, and more earthy tones.

Taste – As with the aroma, very balanced. While Beatification was a punch yourself in the face sour, this was more refined. Wonderful dry acidic qualities, strawberries, lemon, and oak. Slight wine-like qualities with tannic attributes, lactic sourness, and again finishes with a nice wet hay barnyard funk. Spectacular. Mouth puckering but also slightly sweet and flavorful. Extremely composed.

Mouthfeel – Medium to lighter bodied, plentiful carbonation, finishes wonderfully tart and dry like champagne.

Overall – A spectacular beer from Tomme. Until recently I was not able to try many of the “rarer” beers that Tomme has created. I was on the train that ripped on him because of carbonation issues, etc. But I will admit after having a few recent spectacular experiences my view of him has changed a bit (granted all these experiences were beers that were made a couple years ago when I suppose LA was in its prime – we shall see what comes). Highly recommended.

Oct 21, 2011
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waltersrj from Washington

4.5/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pour: Fizzy, clear lemony yellow in appearance with a frothy white head that remained tightly against the glass in a small ring.

Nose: Highly acidic, lemon, grape, slight funk, slight oak.

Taste: Tart grapes that are buried with sour lemon rhind and a nice oaky, slightly funky end.

Mouthfeel: Lively and crisp, really great for a sour.

Overall: Fantastic sour as expected. My second in the series after 009.

Oct 02, 2011
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Urbancaver from Ohio

4.3/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a fairly clear yellow with a nice white head. Smells very funky and tart. Tastes very sour and tart. Lots of lemony goodness on the tongue. The sourness is mostly funky and earthy. Sits light and tasty on the tongue. Overall very enjoyable. Thanks to whomever shard this :)

Sep 15, 2011
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TurdFurgison from Ohio

4.42/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Shared by jampics2 at DrGonzo's place last weekend (thanks Bobby!). This is the 4th of the series I've tried (after 004, 008, 009), and it's closer to the 004 than the others. No surprise here, that's exactly as expected from other reviews.

The cork came out with a mild pop, adequate carbonation but no danger of gushing. It pours a light peach color with some haze to it, a thin head of foam that dissipates quickly.

Lots of grapes in the aroma, and a very acidic note as well. Unlike the 008 or 009 this smells like a beer I will like, definitely some lactic acid here.

It tastes very sour, with some other fruits adding to the grapes a bit (a little apple, maybe lemon), but the sourness is defining. Dry aftertaste with a lingering acidic bite.

Medium carbonation, matched the style in my opinion, a great wild ale. Recommended, a reasonable substitute for 004.

Sep 14, 2011
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Doodler from Colorado

4.45/5  rDev -2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

750 bomber. Pours a hazy light pink. Decent head with nice lacing. Nose is lemony, with sour grape notes and a bit of funk. Taste has white grapes, lemon zest and a cran-apple flavor finish. Tart, but balanced. Mildly carbonated. Had the latest 3, found this one the most sour of the batch..

Sep 07, 2011
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DenverLogan from Colorado

4.38/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big tart, rich and musty aroma, amber-pinkish color. My pour had some particulates as it was one of the last poured. Very rich, mouth puckering tart, funky, sour grapes, lemon, lime...slight dry finish. Darker than the 08...has held it's body and flavor very nicely with the years. Complex and enjoyable.

Sep 04, 2011
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billab914 from Virginia

4.44/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle into a tasting glass. It poured an amber orange-ish color with a bit of a ruby tint to it. A thin white head formed a ring around the edge of the glass.

The aroma is tart, funky and sour with a moderate fruity sweetness coming through. I get some raspberry and grape to the fruitiness. A little sharp with some musty notes to it as well.

The taste is very sour and tart right off the bat. Some sour, fruity raspberries come out with a musty, funkiness in the finish. Very tart and sour overall, but the fruity, slightly sweet notes really give it something special.

The mouthfeel is thin with carbonation being high. Overall it was an excellent sour beer. Lots of tart, funky, sourness without being overly sharp and acidic. The fruity, raspberry flavors were enough to come through with some great flavors themselves, but also not overpower or add too much sweetness. This was definitely one of the highlights of the night, excellent beer overall.

Aug 11, 2011
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thagr81us from South Carolina

4.65/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Massive thanks goes out to beeruser for sharing this one with myself and funkydelic during one of our weekly tastings! A massive want of mine... Served from bottle into a Mikkeller flute. Poured a deep orange with a minimal white head. Maintained decent lacing throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, sour, tart, BIG funk, and fruit. The flavor was of sweet malt, sour, tart, massive funk, grapes, and wood. It had a medium feel on the palate with high carbonation. Overall this brew was effing excellent. How good you might ask??? I could do a line of this... No seriously, there is a picture of this. This was one of the best brews that I had tasted at the time when I had it. However I have gotten to try better brews now. This one was also at another tasting and was a big hit there as well. Definitely worth the effort on tracking this one down as the flavor is very nice and complex. A definite must try if you have not before, and if you have, you already know why I'm saying this...

Jun 28, 2011
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