Juiciest West Coast IPA?

Haha gotcha man. Check out that brewery if you can. It's a pretty chill tasting room and nicely decorated with a pretty cool nautical theme. Great beers too. Curious for people to taste their Inshore and hear their thoughts since they are small and don't bottle yet.

 

The term "juicy" when referring to an IPA isn't really that contentious. On BeerAdvocate as a whole, people understand what it means. There is a collective, understood meaning.

It seems like the confusion only comes from West Coasters who haven't had a NE / NE-style IPA, (which to be honest, are pretty rare in CA). They're thinking juicy means what it means in English, as opposed to a beer sub-style.

 

Im up in the Bay Area so that's a bit out of my reach. Out of the SoCal stuff that I've had, Modern Times and Beachwood have produced the juiciest beers, but still with a bit of west coast edge.

 

Not exactly. The term has been in use for quite a while to describe hoppy beers, so when people offer up examples that they think are juicy but aren't in the NE mold, it's because they've been described that way for over a decade now. The truly odd thing is the thought that now juicy can only describe a particular subset of beers.

It's like if you came up with a new paint finish that looks like fine threads on the wall, and you called it 'satin finish', but suddenly can't understand why other people still use that term to describe something else. If you want things to be communicated clearly how about picking a different word?!!

If the OP had just described the type of beer he was looking for without using the word juicy, all of the 'improper' suggestions and semantic hubbub could have been avoided.

 

i can see non-NE style beers being juicy as well, including sour beers.

The problem is that the opening post explicitly asked for examples of NE style juicy beers on the west coast. Many examples didn't match this profile.

 

Hop Concept Tropical and Juicy is the bomb but whoever said NE style beers are rare in CA is right on.

 

Yeah, but that was due to the not-too-uncommon Beer Advocate practice of only replying to the title, without reading the op .

 

http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2743/94682/

 

"Taste: Bready malt with a building bitterness; piney and dank, with just a hint of tropical fruit; the bitterness builds through the finish and is quite sharp"

errrr.....I don't think so

 

This working copy editor appreciates what you're trying to bring here, I do, but you're slipping into pedantic territory. I've never had a NE-brewed IPA, but I believe I have a pretty good idea of what a juicy, er, "juicy" IPA tastes like based on the descriptive explanations provided in this thread. And Bear Republic Racer 5 it is not. Stop it, people. What's being described is not subtle fruit notes and moderate/moderate+ bitterness. It's not that hard to decipher. Same goes for Pupil. Closer than Racer, but I don't think that (fantastic) beer represents what people are talking about. You still what to argue about the dictionary definition being appropriated without good cause, go ahead, but it's getting tired.

 

Alpine singled out galaxy is joocy as hell. Cant recommend enough.

 

not even close, i actually hated this beer.

 

It does though... Especially as the small group influences a larger group and eventually gets noticed and accepted by places of authority that define things related to a subject. Mavens enlighten social influencers and from there it spreads. You can argue who is actually creating the definition (and both groups would probably take credit).

Yes, because we are not in proper context, we are in THIS context. The OP laid out the context pretty clearly. But those who are wrong in this context usually will be corrected and once again the idea is circulated ever more widely.

For now. But it will spread. Such as when popular, but more mainstream media such as Paste Magazine begins writing about it. From their Double IPA taste test: "Lambo Door, like the earlier Tesseract, is a pretty unabashed hop-bomb, but one that revels in juicy hop deliciousness rather than any sort of intensive bitterness."

 

I agree the word may not have been the best choice in this regard, but it is an apt shorthand descriptor for the style. And more importantly, it has stuck. It would take someone of great authority speaking out against the "new" definition and substituting something else in it's place to derail at this point (or perhaps a rival definition like "New England-style IPA" surpassing it). For example, if JC from Trillium said "Don't call our beers juicy IPAs, that is misleading. Call them 'soft IPAs' please" or "Call them 'citrus blanket' IPAs". Unfortunately, someone in authority did the opposite recently. Tree House re-brewed their Juice Machine IPA.

 

I think the easiest answer to the ops original question is a simple "No" lol

 

Juicy always was the opposite of dry, as a juicy finish is sweeter, less spicy/bitter/hot/acrid than a dry finish. It now has a new and specific controversial semi meaning that no one is able to define so that others all agree. So, while the OP was trying to accomplish something, everyone's non uniform understanding of the word juicy made it an exercise in futility.

 

Wrong. There are West Coast breweries producing similar beers. Not a lot, and not much in distribution, but here are breweries here doing it. Cellarmaker being the best example IMO.

 

Ok, so the simple answer is "Cellarmaker" end of discussion than

 

Again, if we mean anything other than releases at the brewery and/or EXTREMELY limited local distro (i.e., Heady), I can't think of any that are mass distributed. Still waiting to see it happen.

 

None of the NE beers are mass distributed either, so it's kind of a moot point.