Controversial Beer Opinions Thread

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Kraz, Feb 14, 2018.

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  1. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
    In Memoriam

    And what would you call a Barley Wine that is made in England well hopped with American Hops and then aged in first or second use Bourbon Barrels?
     
  2. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Sherry or port, I almost don’t really care.
    I’d gladly call it a bourbon barrel aged strong ale. :wink: If the brewer called it a barley wine, I’d live with just that. If they called it an English style BW, I’d roll my eyes but they’d have more of a right to the term. If they called it an American style BW, I’d say they were honest... but I’m also annoyed that barley wine is starting to actually become equated with bourbon barrel beer within “craft.”

    I’ll make no apologies for inconsistencies and contradictions. Taxonomy is imperfect :wink: and this is my “controversial” post. :slight_smile:
     
  3. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    In other words, the Barley Wine in my question wouldn't be a Barley Wine at all. :sunglasses:
     
  4. McFinniganOfTheFinnigans

    McFinniganOfTheFinnigans Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2017 Maine

    Goose Island. Lagunitas. Pastry Stouts. All are worthless.
     
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  5. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    So, are Goose Island and Lagunitas worthless because of their ownership?
     
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  6. CheapHysterics

    CheapHysterics Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2009 Pennsylvania

    Because other styles are getting squeezed out. Loss of variety translate to loss of choice, which is bad for all who appreciate great beer.

    I understand the economics behind why brewers follow along. The stupidity is on the part of certain consumers who single mindedly pursue one style.
     
  7. slangtruth

    slangtruth Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 Kentucky

    The characteristic known in beer reviews on this site as "lacing" is meaningless, and says nothing about the quality of the beer.
     
  8. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    What the hell? I didn't say that. Why is that quote from me?
     
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  9. guinness77

    guinness77 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,554) Jan 6, 2014 New York
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    Controversial?

    Chances are this is more than a hobby.
     
  10. papposilenus

    papposilenus Grand Pooh-Bah (3,232) Jun 21, 2014 New Hampshire
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    You're right - it was @Coronaeus

    How'd that happen?
     
  11. LuskusDelph

    LuskusDelph Initiate (0) May 1, 2008 New Jersey

    [QUOTE="CheapHysterics, post: 5882849, member: My controversial opinions... KBS is a bad barrel aged stout. Anyone who doesn't like SNPA has something wrong with their taste buds. The current obsession with IPAs is completely stupid and bad for beer in general.[/QUOTE]

    I generally agree...KBS is not that great for all the hype it gets, and SNPA is special (and its a damned classic).
     
  12. alucard6679

    alucard6679 Savant (1,009) Jul 29, 2012 Arizona


    *Wipes single tear away* Thank you

    (Total Wine employee here:grin:)
     
  13. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Keep half an eye on Earth Eagle Brewing in New Hampshire. If it ever happens, it's likely to happen there.

    https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30247/

    They're also your goto for Moose Head Broth Gruits (insert dry heave noises here).

    ETA: don't want to leave people who aren't familiar with them with a bad impression. They're a very cool brewery, but they do push the envelope!
     
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  14. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Since we're doing controversial opinions here, I don't see why Hefeweizens are any less guilty of all the negative things that people throw at NE IPAs.

    They're not bitter, they taste like fruit, and they're cloudy. And if NE IPAs are for people who don't like beer, then I don't know why a glass of strangely clovey bannana bread is for people who do like beer.
     
  15. shelby415

    shelby415 Pooh-Bah (2,098) Oct 10, 2011 Oregon
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    Wow, that's a crazy amount of gruits for one brewery!

    I hope you mean a broth made from Moosehead beer but have a feeling you don't. This makes one wonder, with milkshake IPA's and dessert IPA's a thing, can New England style meat IPA's be far behind?
     
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  16. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I didn't actually try it, but when I was in there once and commented on how kooky some of the gruits were the bartender told me I just missed the Moose Head Broth Gruit.

    And yes, she was not referencing the green bottled Canadian beer :slight_smile:
     
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  17. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    No idea. A glitch, maybe?
     
  18. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    He was agreeing with you first time round and you schooled him in return. Hence the understandable confusion on his end. I agree with you too
     
  19. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Who slack am I supposed to cut? There are people who write it as "New Castle Brown Ale" rather than "Newcastle Brown Ale" - not hard find even tho' Google wants to correct it.
    http://www.hbso.com/product/new-castle-brown-ale/
    A search of the forums here on BA turn up 10 pages of possible hits, including threads with it in the subject line like this one https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/new-castle-brown-ale.28409/ in which the OP states
    because the BA search function doesn't fix it like Google does :grin:.

    Well, of course, I've had a bottle or two here or there (likely from a friend's refrigerator) but Newcastle Brown Ale didn't really hit these shores until the late 1970s or so but I don't recall seeing it regularly until the mid-'80s. It arrived here in a clear bottle :dizzy_face: (I think there were odd sized steel cans, too?) - no draught - from an international "macro" brewing co, soon wrapped up in the Elders XL scandal by the end of that decade. Don't really know why else now that I think about it (maybe M. Jackson or, likely, CAMRA said something negative about it, too?).

    I suppose I phrased that wrong for the modern era in which people brag about never having bought a whole sixpack of beer, but buy everything in singles, etc,. or when a "tick" is a 2-4 oz. sample and enough for some to say "I've had that beer". "Yeah, but have you really :stuck_out_tongue:?"

    So...I guess should have written I wasn't a regular buyer or drinker of NBA. I guess it'd be as if someone said, "I don't eat cheese..." but, of course, they've tasted cheese - maybe they even eat pizza.

    Oh, I've never claimed that about myself. I just happen to be interested in US brewing industry history - that's different that being a "beer expert" (or even a "ticker"). Oh, and I do also consume the product and I do have my preferences. :smirk:
     
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  20. DutchGermanguy

    DutchGermanguy Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2017 Netherlands

    Cheap eurolager from Aldi and Lidl is actually not that bad, although it is considered really bad beer
     
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