Ommegang’s first foray into lager brewing: Idyll Days Pilsner

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  1. M-Fox24

    M-Fox24 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,941) Mar 17, 2013 New Jersey
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    BREWERY OMMEGANG LAUNCHES IDYLL DAYS PILSNER; NEW YEAR-ROUND OFFERING ARRIVES IN MARCH


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  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The recipe of the beer sounds tasty!:slight_smile:

    "...4-packs of 16 ounce cans..." Yuck!:slight_frown:

    Why couldn't they have just packaged this is in the 'normal' six-pack/12 ounce format?

    If I see this beer on tap I will try a pint. I will not be purchasing packaged beers at inflated pricing.:grimacing:

    Cheers!
     
  3. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (2,193) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Anyone have experience with Belgian lager yeast? Those are two ends of the yeast spectrum for me, so not sure what to expect.
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have not personally brewed with it yet but White Labs provides a Belgian Lager yeast strain:

    “WLP815 Belgian Lager Yeast

    Lagers

    A clean, crisp European lager yeast with low sulfur production. This strain originates from a very old brewery in west Belgium. Great for European-style pilsners, dark lagers, Vienna lagers, and American-style lagers.”

    https://www.whitelabs.com/yeast-bank/wlp815-belgian-lager-yeast

    The aspect of “low sulfur production” reads consistent with the description of the yeast used to ferment Idyll Days Pilsner:

    “…a Belgian lager yeast to give it a cleaner profile with fewer sulfuric notes.”

    Based upon my homebrewing experience producing lagers I am not so sure what the benefits of “low sulfur production” truly means since for the lagers I brew the sulfur compounds dissipate over the course of fermentation (and any residual sulfur compounds are processed during lagering). Maybe Ommegang chose this strain since it permits a shorter overall production schedule?

    Cheers!
     
  5. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    Here in Houston I haven't seen a Ommegang can in anything other than 16 oz. I am game for this if the pricing is reasonable. I can get Live Oak Pils every day down here for 7.99 to 8.99 a six pack, so it has to compete with that.
     
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  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Ommegang has the ability to can in 12 ounce cans:

    “Our new canning line accommodates 12, 16 and 19.2 oz cans and produces about 40 cans per minute. It occupies a compact space within our packaging facility, even tying into the existing bottling line once the cans are filled and sealed.”

    https://www.ommegang.com/2018/05/br...irst-on-site-can-release-neon-rainbows-neipa/

    They obviously made a business decision to package their Pilsner in the four-pack/16 ounce can format so I wish you luck as regards “if the pricing is reasonable”.

    A few days ago I purchased Sterling Pig Shoats Pilsner: six-pack/12 ounce cans for a total price of $7.99. I will likely just buy another sixer of Shoats Pilsner vs. the Ommegang canned Idyll Days Pilsner but as I stated above I would be willing to purchase a draft pint of Idyll Days Pilsner if I ever see it on tap.

    Cheers!
     
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  7. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    It does sound tasty and I'm not aware of having beers brewed with Belgian lager yeast, so want to try it. If I stumble upon it on draft I'll certainly order it, but I'm far more likely to encounter the 4-pack. I'm willing pay Ommegang's typical 4-pack price once to try this, but the price makes it highly unlikely to be a repeat buy.
     
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  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Stella Artois?

    Cheers!
     
  9. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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    Does Ommegang do anything in 6-packs? Even their 12 oz bottles are sold in 4-packs.
     
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    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
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  11. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Good point...in that case I want to add another data point to my dataset.
     
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  12. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Initiate (0) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona

    I will be grabbing a pack when they land, saw this in a video a few weeks ago, looks good.
     
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  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I do not know the answer to your question but my retort would be that providing a new beer (Pilsner) to their portfolio presents them with an opportunity to do 'the right thing' with this new product.

    Cheers!
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Two data points are better than one!?!:slight_smile:

    Cheers!
     
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  16. alliecapozza

    alliecapozza Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2013 New York

    Yes, Witte, Nirvana, and Rare Vos are all available in six-packs.
     
  17. islay

    islay Savant (1,211) Jan 6, 2008 Minnesota

    Pilsners as a desperately needed relief from the sugarmurk of the juice-'n'-pastrymongers? Yes, please.

    Pilsners as the latest style that every time-honored brewery feels compelled to put in pounder cans lest their wares be pushed off the shelves? Not a great development.
     
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  18. Jacobier10

    Jacobier10 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,102) Feb 23, 2004 New Jersey
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    Looking forward to trying this. Would love to get my hands on one of those glasses!
     
  19. Jacobier10

    Jacobier10 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,102) Feb 23, 2004 New Jersey
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    Even if they are made well and priced appropriately?
     
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  20. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    My assumption was that Belgian lager yeast = Stella, Jupiler, Maes, Bavik, etc.
    While their ale yeasts are incredibly active and bold, their lagers are super clean with next to no character at all IMO.
     
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