Society and Pooh-Bah Updates

Blog Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Todd, Feb 26, 2023.

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  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    The lines between Respect Beer Society and Pooh-Bah were kind of blurry. This was mostly due to the fact the Pooh-Bahs were gifted a Respect Beer Society membership starting on Valentine's Day 2020 as a way of giving something back. And during the pandemic, I extended it to those who supported our Beer Fests in Cyberspace in 2021 and did regular giveaways on Discord in 2021/22.

    Long-term, these giveaways aren't sustainable. Why?
    • It's hard to sell something that you're also giving away. And the more you give something away, the less perceived value it has.
    • We wound up with more nonpaid Society members than paid.
    • BeerAdvocate doesn't have any major revenue streams at the moment. I'm talking the sort of signficant revenue we saw with our beer fests and magazine.
    • Whether people paid or not started to get confusing.
    Given all of that, I hope you can appreciate the balance that I'm trying to achieve with the following updates.

    Respect Beer Society
    A paid account upgrade with perks.
    • Anyone can join, including Pooh-Bahs (see below)
    • New: Exclusive karma achievement + points
    • The only thing that's really changing here is that we're no longer giving memberships away
    Pooh-Bah
    A longtime, highly coveted title awarded to users who accrued 1,500 points or more. Users who achieved Pooh-Bah status were very active, put in the time, and their contributions to the site and its community clearly showed.

    Post-karma revamp, this remains true. After carefully reviewing with the Mod team, I've decided to keep the threshold at 1,500 points as it covers nearly everyone who previously held the title (like 99%) and welcomes some new users too.

    I've also added two new Pooh-Bah titles, that some of you may recall from the karma system circa 2005:
    • Grand Pooh-Bah (3,000 points)
    • Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,000 points)
    And Pooh-Bah is now more than just a title.
    • Perks:
      • New: Exclusive user banner
      • New: Exclusive karma achievement + points
      • New: Access to the Pooh-Bah-only forum
      • New: Unlock our Profile Posts feature (if you're not a Society member)
    Society + Pooh-Bah
    For Pooh-Bahs who decide to join the Society, you'll soon earn an exclusive achievement as a thanks for your additional support.

    If you're reading this post first, I recommend checking out the following threads:
    Thanks again for your patience and support!
     
  2. champ103

    champ103 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,296) Sep 3, 2007 Texas
    Society Pooh-Bah

    And I just renewed my Society membership. I think I payed for it way back when, but after it was gifted I kind of forgot about it. Regardless if it was going to be gifted again, I just decided to go ahead and pay for it again :slight_smile:

    Cheers all.
     
  3. thebeers

    thebeers Grand Pooh-Bah (5,837) Sep 10, 2014 Pennsylvania
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I used to subscribe to the magazine and was a paid society member until y’all started giving it away for free. I don’t love how major updates on the site sometimes seem to involve taking away things I enjoyed; I feel like Poo-Bahs do already provide a lot of free labor to the site; and I’m less enthusiastic about giving money to Next Glass than I was to Jason and Todd — but all that said, I understand the loss of revenue that COVID has created regarding the Beer Fests, and $10 ain’t that much that I’m gonna sweat over it beyond this one cranky post. :wink:
     
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  4. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I've said it before and I'll say it again; 20 bucks is a cheap date for no ads on a site I probably log 200 hours a year on. Cheers.
     
  5. KP7

    KP7 Pooh-Bah (1,605) Feb 8, 2021 Massachusetts
    Society Pooh-Bah

    @Todd, where does the Society revenue go? Does it stay with BA to support your work and improve the site or is it sent to a big pot at Next Glass that you then have to advocate for it to get disbursed back to BA?
     
  6. DIM

    DIM Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Sep 28, 2006 Pennsylvania
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Happy to pony up again, kinda felt guilty when I didn't have to. :beers:
     
  7. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    It goes to vacations and a healthy beer fund bud.
     
  8. KP7

    KP7 Pooh-Bah (1,605) Feb 8, 2021 Massachusetts
    Society Pooh-Bah

    That's fine with me, as long as it's Todd's vacatoion and beer fund and not going toward fueling up a NG investor's private yatch.
     
  9. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Re-upped - ten bucks a year for a site I spend hours reading and consistently delivers? Yeah...I'm in!

    I would have paid every year - how do we know when we need to re-up?
     
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  10. cryptichead

    cryptichead Grand Pooh-Bah (4,897) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Just purchased my membership again. Guess I'm good through May 2025 now.
     
  11. cryptichead

    cryptichead Grand Pooh-Bah (4,897) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    It's only $10 now. A steal, if you ask me.
     
  12. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    @Todd
    So, just to be clear, if we were already a Society member, and then were recently made a Pooh-Bah, we're set? Or do we need to reregister/repay for Society?

    Sorry if I'm being a little dense about this . . .

    PS: And how do we know when our current Society membership ends?
     
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  13. ScaryEd

    ScaryEd Grand Pooh-Bah (3,793) Feb 19, 2012 New Hampshire
    Society Pooh-Bah

    Idk about you guys but I like all the flair.

    Chotskie's would be proud.
     
  14. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    It's tracked as income generated from BeerAdvocate, but we're all one company and projects are prioritized according to their needs. For example, last year I was able to get resources allocated for a much needed and massive forum upgrade. That should be wrapped during the first half of this year.

    Anyway. Next Glass' success is BeerAdvocate's success, and vice versa.
     
  15. BigIronH

    BigIronH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,762) Oct 31, 2019 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah Trader

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  16. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    Yes. If you're already a Society member, you're good to go.
    You should be able to view it here: https://www.beeradvocate.com/community/account/upgrades

    Otherwise I can let you know or add it to the main Society page, which I might do anyway.
     
  17. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    I wish. I haven't had a vacation in over a decade.
     
  18. FBarber

    FBarber Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,325) Mar 5, 2016 Illinois
    Mod Team BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Might be time to go somewhere nice and warm …
    :wink:
     
  19. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    While I now remember it as a nice gesture, over time I honestly forgot you cancelled our autorenewal for the Society, and assumed (or hoped)I was still paying.

    I do prefer to support what few resources I fully invest myself into like this, so consider me signed back up here in one sec.
     
  20. cryptichead

    cryptichead Grand Pooh-Bah (4,897) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    He's already living by the beach...and his whole job is a beer vacation (I kid, I kid).
     
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