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Heads Up: Karma System Revamp!

Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Todd, Nov 23, 2022.

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  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,172) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    Beer Karma. It's been around since the early days of BeerAdvocate as simple way to acknowledge members for their contributions to this site and its community.

    It's always been a bit of mystery (by design), which has caused some confusion over the years. And, in the year 2022, the system is a bit boring and dated. So, I'm currently revamping the system to use our forum's achievement system, and then extending it to other member stats (beers, places, etc.). It'll be much more fun, engaging, transparent, and efficient (I get to disable a resource hungry cron job or two). And, when our big forum upgrade is finally complete, we'll have even more criteria and options to play with.

    Anyway. Under the new system, points will be attached to achievements (milestones) and you'll get an alert when you receive an achievement (meet the criteria). You'll also be able to view all available achievements and the ones you've been awarded.

    Once I'm done creating the base achievements, the following will occur:
    1. User titles will be temporarily disabled.
    2. Points will be temporarily wiped.
    3. I'll switch the new system on, which will then issue achievements and points for all criteria that you currently meet.
      1. Some of you will get a lot of alerts. Sorry. :grimacing:
      2. Achievements won't be back dated.
      3. You'll need to log in for most achievements to be applied.
    4. Once things settle, new user titles will be applied based on the new points structure.
    This also aligns with the recent launch of Profile Posts (for Society members) and Members in the navigation, where I'm putting more focus on our community.

    My goal is to launch it early in the new year, but wanted to give everyone a heads up.

    More updates to follow...

    You can follow my progress here: Karma System Revamp Update Log
     
    #1 Todd, Nov 23, 2022
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  2. Giantspace

    Giantspace Pooh-Bah (2,757) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Hmmmm… this post made me look at my Beer Karma number. I jotted it down just to see how it might change. All in good fun this Karma is.

    Enjoy
     
    #2 Giantspace, Nov 23, 2022
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  3. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,172) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    The points will be different for everyone, so comparing the old vs. new would be pointless.
     
    #3 Todd, Nov 23, 2022
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  4. mactrail

    mactrail Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,843) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
    Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    Resistance is pointless... time to relax and have a Stoup Be Dazzled
     
    #4 mactrail, Nov 23, 2022
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  5. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Pooh-Bah (2,384) Apr 9, 2015 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Resistance is the only way!

    Resist and Exist....or is it Resist to Exist? I forgot!
     
    #5 Resistance88, Nov 23, 2022
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  6. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (4,086) Oct 14, 2009 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Does this mean the first rule no longer applies?
     
    #6 elNopalero, Nov 23, 2022
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  7. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,172) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    #7 Todd, Nov 23, 2022
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  8. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (4,086) Oct 14, 2009 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    #8 elNopalero, Nov 23, 2022
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  9. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,881) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
    Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    Looking forward to the new rollout and achievements.

    Will you grandfather Society status for current Poo-Bah members who fall below Poo-Bah under the new point structure?

     
    #9 ChicagoJ, Nov 23, 2022
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  10. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,649) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Change and move forward or remain static and become stagnant.
    Let's see the changes!
     
    #10 beerjerk666, Nov 23, 2022
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  11. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Pooh-Bah (2,384) Apr 9, 2015 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    we are living in a Static Age...get it?
     
    #11 Resistance88, Nov 23, 2022
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  12. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,172) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    Based on testing today, I'm anticipating that those who are currently Poo-Bahs will remain Poo-Bahs.
     
    #12 Todd, Nov 23, 2022
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  13. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,978) Aug 17, 2013 California
    Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    That's probably a good idea. I can just imagine a bunch of grown men/women trying to explain why they are crying at Thanksgiving dinner :stuck_out_tongue:
     
    #13 Beersnake1, Nov 23, 2022
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  14. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,172) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

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    #14 Todd, Nov 23, 2022
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  15. md3kcn

    md3kcn Savant (1,024) Feb 4, 2021 North Carolina
    Trader

    internet points have never mattered
    only beer enjoyment matters in this case
     
    #15 md3kcn, Nov 23, 2022
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  16. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,172) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

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    #16 Todd, Nov 23, 2022
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  17. Resistance88

    Resistance88 Pooh-Bah (2,384) Apr 9, 2015 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    say what?

    can't hear you from way back there :stuck_out_tongue::stuck_out_tongue:
     
    #17 Resistance88, Nov 23, 2022
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  18. mactrail

    mactrail Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,843) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
    Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    What? we are STILL not worthy?
     
    #18 mactrail, Nov 23, 2022
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  19. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,356) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
    Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    OMG read the before I am going to bed, now I won't be able to sleep. All that beer I drank and reviewed to become the poo bah I am today at risk....
    Seriously though, the threads created after this is applied will be epic. On a positive note, have a great Thanksgiving guys and hope you all enjoy the time with friends, family or just yourself.
     
    #19 donspublic, Nov 23, 2022
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  20. dd53grif

    dd53grif Pooh-Bah (1,875) May 28, 2017 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    Sounds like quite an undertaking. Hope you don't get a lot of negative feedback. I've never been concerned about karma points. I like BA for the fact that it tracks my beer consumption and places visited for me. Happy Thanksgiving.
     
    #20 dd53grif, Nov 23, 2022
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  21. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,509) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Or conversely, getting black-out hammered trying to review enough beer to re-obtain Poo-Bah status.
     
    #21 Harrison8, Nov 23, 2022
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  22. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy Grand Pooh-Bah (4,328) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
    Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    Isnt Black-out hammered what Thanksgiving is really about anyway??

    This will definitely be a popcorn worthy event...of course with the appropriate beverages too!:beer::popcorn:
     
    #22 sulldaddy, Nov 23, 2022
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  23. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,308) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
    Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    That's the true spirit of Thanksgiving right there, brother
     
    #23 snaotheus, Nov 23, 2022
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  24. snaotheus

    snaotheus Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,308) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
    Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    Ha! Beat me by a minute, apparently we think alike
     
    #24 snaotheus, Nov 23, 2022
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  25. cryptichead

    cryptichead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,441) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
    Data Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    Excited about these changes and seeing the new system.

    Nervous about these changes and seeing the new system especially if our prior achievements won't be back dated (not sure what that means yet). But good to hear that Poo-Bah status will be retained. Lot of work, photo uploads, and updates went into earning these points, hopefully not all will be placed.
     
    #25 cryptichead, Nov 23, 2022
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  26. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,172) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    It means that when all of this launches, initial achievements won't be back dated to the day that you actually earned the achievement. Future achievements will be dated as they're awarded.
     
    #26 Todd, Nov 23, 2022
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  27. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,172) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    Update: Changed the timeline to before the end of the year, as I want to launch with as achievements as possible.
     
    #27 Todd, Nov 27, 2022
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  28. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (1,915) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
    Pooh-Bah Society

    Interesting to see if I'm already half pubah without knowing it. Or if I'm only a third.

    Let the quest continue!
     
    #28 beer_beer, Nov 28, 2022
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  29. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,069) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

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    #29 JackHorzempa, Nov 29, 2022
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  30. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,605) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
    Pooh-Bah

    Everything is fine and in place
    Find Beer Satori in this space
     
    #30 rgordon, Nov 29, 2022
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  31. Braunmeister_1943

    Braunmeister_1943 Pooh-Bah (1,999) Nov 22, 2020 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Society Trader

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    #31 Braunmeister_1943, Nov 30, 2022
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  32. Braunmeister_1943

    Braunmeister_1943 Pooh-Bah (1,999) Nov 22, 2020 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    Just when I was becoming interested/confused about “Beer Karma “!
     
    #32 Braunmeister_1943, Nov 30, 2022
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  33. smcolw

    smcolw Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Jan 16, 2004 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Society

    This is only disappointing as I recently reached 10,000 point mark (yeah for me!) only to see the number drop by about 100. I guess that means more tastings and brewery visits. On the positive side, I'll get to celebrate 10,000 points TWICE. I imagine very few will get to make that claim.
     
    #33 smcolw, Dec 30, 2022
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  34. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (3,988) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
    Pooh-Bah Society

    Funny, mine hasn't dropped. Did I miss something?
     
    #34 steveh, Dec 30, 2022
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  35. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,069) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Yup, drink more beer!

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    #35 JackHorzempa, Dec 30, 2022
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  36. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,172) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Super Mod Pooh-Bah Society Trader

    The revamp hasn't happened yet, but you did unsubscribe from emails recently.
    Nope.
     
    #36 Todd, Dec 30, 2022
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  37. beer_beer

    beer_beer Pooh-Bah (1,915) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
    Pooh-Bah Society

    Can't wait for the update...
     
    #37 beer_beer, Dec 30, 2022
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  38. smcolw

    smcolw Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Jan 16, 2004 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Society

    Wait, what? I didn’t change my email setting. BUT I did start using a password manager and switched to a new (more difficult) password. I’ll go back and check my settings. In an odd way, I’m actually disappointed that the change hasn’t taken place.
     
    #38 smcolw, Dec 30, 2022
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  39. smcolw

    smcolw Grand Pooh-Bah (4,788) Jan 16, 2004 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Society

    Yeah, my karma has returned!
     
    #39 smcolw, Dec 30, 2022
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  40. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,069) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Did you change your password to "karma"? :thinking_face:

    Cheers!
     
    #40 JackHorzempa, Dec 31, 2022
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