Heads Up: Karma System Revamp!

Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Todd, Nov 23, 2022.

  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (1,700) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society Trader

    Beer Karma. It's been around since the early days of BeerAdvocate as simple way to acknowledge members for their contributions to this site and its community.

    It's always been a bit of mystery (by design), which has caused some confusion over the years. And, in the year 2022, the system is a bit boring and dated. So, I'm currently revamping the system to use our forum's achievement system, and then extending it to other member stats (beers, places, etc.). It'll be much more fun, engaging, transparent, and efficient (I get to disable a resource hungry cron job or two). And, when our big forum upgrade is finally complete, we'll have even more criteria and options to play with.

    Anyway. Under the new system, points will be attached to achievements (milestones) and you'll get an alert when you receive an achievement (meet the criteria). You'll also be able to view all available achievements and the ones you've been awarded.

    Once I'm done creating the base achievements, the following will occur:
    1. User titles will be temporarily disabled.
    2. Points will be temporarily wiped.
    3. I'll switch the new system on, which will then issue achievements and points for all criteria that you currently meet.
      1. Some of you will get a lot of alerts. Sorry. :grimacing:
      2. Achievements won't be back dated.
      3. You'll need to log in for most achievements to be applied.
    4. Once things settle, new user titles will be applied based on the new points structure.
    This also aligns with the recent launch of Profile Posts (for Society members) and Members in the navigation, where I'm putting more focus on our community.

    My goal is to launch it early in the new year, but wanted to give everyone a heads up.

    More updates to follow...

    You can follow my progress here: Karma System Revamp Update Log
     
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  2. Giantspace

    Giantspace (580) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Hmmmm… this post made me look at my Beer Karma number. I jotted it down just to see how it might change. All in good fun this Karma is.

    Enjoy
     
  3. Todd

    Todd Founder (1,700) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society Trader

    The points will be different for everyone, so comparing the old vs. new would be pointless.
     
  4. mactrail

    mactrail (1,250) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
    Moderator Society Trader

    Resistance is pointless... time to relax and have a Stoup Be Dazzled
     
  5. Resistance88

    Resistance88 (600) Apr 9, 2015 California
    Trader

    Resistance is the only way!

    Resist and Exist....or is it Resist to Exist? I forgot!
     
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  6. elNopalero

    elNopalero (975) Oct 14, 2009 California
    Society Trader

    Does this mean the first rule no longer applies?
     
  7. Todd

    Todd Founder (1,700) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society Trader

  8. elNopalero

    elNopalero (975) Oct 14, 2009 California
    Society Trader

  9. ChicagoJ

    ChicagoJ (985) Feb 2, 2015 Illinois
    Society

    Looking forward to the new rollout and achievements.

    Will you grandfather Society status for current Poo-Bah members who fall below Poo-Bah under the new point structure?

     
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  10. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 (1,265) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
    Society Trader

    Change and move forward or remain static and become stagnant.
    Let's see the changes!
     
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  11. Resistance88

    Resistance88 (600) Apr 9, 2015 California
    Trader

    we are living in a Static Age...get it?
     
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  12. Todd

    Todd Founder (1,700) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society Trader

    Based on testing today, I'm anticipating that those who are currently Poo-Bahs will remain Poo-Bahs.
     
  13. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 (1,280) Aug 17, 2013 California
    Moderator Society Trader

    That's probably a good idea. I can just imagine a bunch of grown men/women trying to explain why they are crying at Thanksgiving dinner :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  14. Todd

    Todd Founder (1,700) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society Trader

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  15. md3kcn

    md3kcn (0) Feb 4, 2021 North Carolina
    Trader

    internet points have never mattered
    only beer enjoyment matters in this case
     
  16. Todd

    Todd Founder (1,700) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society Trader

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  17. Resistance88

    Resistance88 (600) Apr 9, 2015 California
    Trader

    say what?

    can't hear you from way back there :stuck_out_tongue::stuck_out_tongue:
     
  18. mactrail

    mactrail (1,250) Mar 24, 2009 Washington
    Moderator Society Trader

    What? we are STILL not worthy?
     
  19. donspublic

    donspublic (790) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
    Society Trader

    OMG read the before I am going to bed, now I won't be able to sleep. All that beer I drank and reviewed to become the poo bah I am today at risk....
    Seriously though, the threads created after this is applied will be epic. On a positive note, have a great Thanksgiving guys and hope you all enjoy the time with friends, family or just yourself.
     
  20. dd53grif

    dd53grif (450) May 28, 2017 Michigan
    Society Trader

    Sounds like quite an undertaking. Hope you don't get a lot of negative feedback. I've never been concerned about karma points. I like BA for the fact that it tracks my beer consumption and places visited for me. Happy Thanksgiving.
     
  21. Harrison8

    Harrison8 (1,355) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
    Society Trader

    Or conversely, getting black-out hammered trying to review enough beer to re-obtain Poo-Bah status.
     
  22. sulldaddy

    sulldaddy (985) Apr 6, 2003 Connecticut
    Society Trader

    Isnt Black-out hammered what Thanksgiving is really about anyway??

    This will definitely be a popcorn worthy event...of course with the appropriate beverages too!:beer::popcorn:
     
  23. snaotheus

    snaotheus (1,335) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
    Society Trader

    That's the true spirit of Thanksgiving right there, brother
     
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  24. snaotheus

    snaotheus (1,335) Oct 6, 2008 Washington
    Society Trader

    Ha! Beat me by a minute, apparently we think alike
     
  25. cryptichead

    cryptichead (865) Jul 3, 2014 Illinois
    Society Trader

    Excited about these changes and seeing the new system.

    Nervous about these changes and seeing the new system especially if our prior achievements won't be back dated (not sure what that means yet). But good to hear that Poo-Bah status will be retained. Lot of work, photo uploads, and updates went into earning these points, hopefully not all will be placed.
     
  26. Todd

    Todd Founder (1,700) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society Trader

    It means that when all of this launches, initial achievements won't be back dated to the day that you actually earned the achievement. Future achievements will be dated as they're awarded.
     
  27. Todd

    Todd Founder (1,700) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society Trader

    Update: Changed the timeline to before the end of the year, as I want to launch with as achievements as possible.
     
  28. beer_beer

    beer_beer (445) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
    Society

    Interesting to see if I'm already half pubah without knowing it. Or if I'm only a third.

    Let the quest continue!
     
  29. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa (735) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society

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  30. rgordon

    rgordon (575) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina

    Everything is fine and in place
    Find Beer Satori in this space
     
  31. Braunmeister_1943

    Braunmeister_1943 (560) Nov 22, 2020 Pennsylvania
    Society

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  32. Braunmeister_1943

    Braunmeister_1943 (560) Nov 22, 2020 Pennsylvania
    Society

    Just when I was becoming interested/confused about “Beer Karma “!
     
  33. smcolw

    smcolw (910) Jan 16, 2004 Massachusetts
    Society

    This is only disappointing as I recently reached 10,000 point mark (yeah for me!) only to see the number drop by about 100. I guess that means more tastings and brewery visits. On the positive side, I'll get to celebrate 10,000 points TWICE. I imagine very few will get to make that claim.
     
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  34. steveh

    steveh (775) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
    Society

    Funny, mine hasn't dropped. Did I miss something?
     
  35. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa (735) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society

    Yup, drink more beer!

    [​IMG]
     
  36. Todd

    Todd Founder (1,700) Aug 23, 1996 California
    Staff Moderator Fest Crew Society Trader

    The revamp hasn't happened yet, but you did unsubscribe from emails recently.
    Nope.
     
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  37. beer_beer

    beer_beer (445) Feb 13, 2018 Finland
    Society

    Can't wait for the update...
     
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  38. smcolw

    smcolw (910) Jan 16, 2004 Massachusetts
    Society

    Wait, what? I didn’t change my email setting. BUT I did start using a password manager and switched to a new (more difficult) password. I’ll go back and check my settings. In an odd way, I’m actually disappointed that the change hasn’t taken place.
     
  39. smcolw

    smcolw (910) Jan 16, 2004 Massachusetts
    Society

    Yeah, my karma has returned!
     
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  40. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa (735) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society

    Did you change your password to "karma"? :thinking_face:

    Cheers!
     
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