New Rating System +/-

If what they wanted was to make their ratings more valuable, accurate, truthful and meaningful, so that perhaps some local beer shops around my area for example, would use their ratings on the shelves instead of some other site that rates beer, then I would have to say no, that is not what they wanted.

 

Yes, good points! You know how many beers I've rated an overall 5? None. Why? Because when I first started reviewing on this site the 101 posts the Bros made stated "A score of 5 is for a perfect beer" - just wait and see what will happen to the Top 250 with all these 5/5 reviews coming through... food for thought.

 

Wow, never seen an rDev this big - that person must love Bud Light:

Bud Light
5/5 rDev +170.3%

In fact, and further to my last post there's been a few 5/5 beers rated over the past couple days - some perfect beers there...

-08-21-2014Bud Light
Anheuser-Busch
5+170.3%

R08-21-2014Miller Lite
Miller Brewing Co.
4.75+120.9%

-08-20-2014Corona Extra
Grupo Modelo S.A. de C.V.
5+116.5%

-08-20-2014Sol
Cervecería Cuauhtémoc Moctezuma, S.A. de C.V.
5+104.9%

-08-21-2014Budweiser
Anheuser-Busch
4.76+104.3%

R08-20-2014Tecate
Cervecería Cuauhtémoc Moctezuma, S.A. de C.V.
5+99.2%

R08-21-2014Dixie Jazz
Dixie Brewing Co.
5+90.1%

-08-21-2014Miller High Life
Miller Brewing Co.
5+87.3%

-08-20-2014Heineken Lager Beer
Heineken Nederland B.V.
5+84.5%

 

I agree and don't see why the new system would stop this. My assumption is that people did that because they saw their standard deviation. Something that is still shown under the new system.

 

Someone reviewed an oktoberfest from Mexico, Indio, and wrote as his review: "Mexico"

Bro's, come on...are you joking?

This is what constitutes a review? Would that be considered an "inappropriate" review?

Pandoras box has been opened gentlemen.

I feel like this whole thing is some absurdly late April Fool's joke.

 

It feels great to be part of this site that actually PROMOTES this type of "notes" for a beer instead of categorically rating and reviewing the beer:

Crushed Green Wit

Moody Tongue Brewing Company
Witbier / 5.00% ABV

4.75/5
rDev: +0.4% | rAvg: 4.73

Ahhhhhhhh refreshing.



08-21-2014 14:56:29


Cold Press Paw Paw Belgian

Moody Tongue Brewing Company
Belgian Pale Ale / 5.50% ABV

4.5/5
rDev: +3.7% | rAvg: 4.34

Great name. Great taste.

 

Like you, out of my 1500+ reviews/ratings, I have zero perfect "5"s.

The issue of the recent "grade inflation" I think is unrelated to the new review system, it's just a product of a ton of newer users not understanding the point scale and that 1's and 5's were supposed to be rare, not common.

I know that when the old "Hads" turned into "Ratings" that counted towards the overall scores, the Bros stated that the average of the Ratings and Reviews was similar. But in the few years since, I don't think this is the case anymore.

Was it just in this update that the only wording shown with the rating numbers is "3.0- okay"? I can't remember.

 

Maybe there's something I'm missing, but that seems to be the case.

 

Where are you seeing this rating of 3.0 - okay?

 

The drop down window for rating any beer.

I know at one point it gave reference words for the 1, 2, 4, and 5 scores also.

 

As far as I remember (and that only goes back about 10 months), I recall only seeing the Okay in line with the 3.0 and not any other scores.

 

There were a couple of iterations of changing the wording, to try to give people a frame of reference for the number scores.

 

I think it's a overall problem of "Ratings" scores being higher on average than "Review" scores.

Just for shits and giggles, I pulled up the recent scores for a popular, highly regarded beer, Stone Enjoy By:

The last 20 Reviews: 4.7, 3.7, 4.75, 4.45, 4.45, 4.49, 4.48, 4.01, 4.18, 4.01, 5, 4.08, 4.18, 4.59, 4.2, 4.58, 4.68, 4.88, 4.89, 3.91 Average - 4.41
The last 20 Ratings: 4.28, 4.25, 4.25, 4.3, 5, 3.96, 4.44, 4.25, 4.68, 4.72, 5, 4, 4.56, 4.75, 5, 4.75, 4.5, 5, 4, 4.64 Average - 4.52

A bit of a difference, and probably mostly due to the 4 perfect "5" Ratings, vs. only 1 perfect "5" Review.

Looking at Heady Topper, you can see the possible effect of the new "short" Reviews

The last 20 Reviews (not including new "short" Reviews): 4.65, 5, 4.5, 4.24, 5, 4.68 4.98, 4.35, 4.85, 5, 3.19, 4.48, 4.64, 4.63, 5, 5, 5, 4.8, 4.33, 4.01 Average: 4.62
The last 20 Ratings: 5, 4.72, 5, 5, 4.5, 4.5, 4.75, 4.25, 4.75, 4.95, 4.8, 5, 4.75, 5, 5, 4.7, 4.2, 4.5, 5, 5 Average: 4.77
There have only been 10 "short" Reviews so far: 4.5, 4.5, 5, 5, 5, 4.75, 5, 5, 4.5, 4.75 Average: 4.80

Caveat: I understand these are small samples sizes, but I'm sure the Bros can generate averages across the whole database.

 

Found it.

Words were added to the Rating scale on 5/26/13. After debate, 6/12/13 it was updated to:
Rating Scale Words

• 1.00 - awful
• 2.00 - poor
• 3.00 - okay
• 4.00 - outstanding
• 5.00 - perfect

 

Totally agree and was trying to say what I said in a tactful way.

 

all i know is that the longer a final decision is delayed, the more likely things will end up staying the way they are.

 

All due respect to you. Any advice on how we can go about getting this corrected? I really love this website and all that it has to offer and what it set out in the ' 90s to accomplish. I mean how are we really "respecting beer" writing one liners?

 

Now I understand why every beer on the planet has a 90+ rating on the other site.

Dope