Any ideas? Beer with raspberries.

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  1. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    Just curious if anybody has any recommendations for making a beer with black raspberries and mulberries? I have a couple pounds of each that I harvested this summer and froze. I would like to stay away from sours or wild ales. A couple years ago I brewed a brett saison with 4 lbs of black raspberries added. While it was delicious, probably one of my best beers ever, waiting over a year to finally be able to drink it isn't appealing to me. I'm thinking maybe a hefe, or a pale wheat, maybe add them to a kolsch? A berliner weiss or gose would be a good idea I think, but again, I kinda want to stay away from bacteria and/or wild yeast fermentations.

    So...has anybody brewed a beer with raspberry/mullberry additions that you absolutely loved? Whatever I brew plan on using both berry varieties.
     
  2. bakinnebrew

    bakinnebrew Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Tennessee

    Sounds like some tasty ingredients! Earlier this year, I brewed a blonde ale with honey, oats, and raspberries. I really liked it. I learned, however, that it was better fresh. The berry flavors started to dwindle after 4 or 5 weeks.
     
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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  4. brchapman

    brchapman Initiate (0) Nov 18, 2014 Georgia

    I also brewed a blonde with raspberries. I used around 5 pounds or so of fresh raspberries, (may have been 7 lbs...), pulped up, sticking them in the beer after primary fermentation.

    The beer is red with a pink head which is kinda cool. Since some additional fermentation occurred, the beer doesn't have any sweetness associated with the addition of raspberries.

    I doubt I would do it this way again, though the neighbor seems to be enjoying it, (being free may be factoring into that as well)
     
  5. BumpkinBrewer

    BumpkinBrewer Pundit (993) Jan 6, 2010 Massachusetts

    Chocolate Raspberry Porter around this time of year would be nice.
     
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  6. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    Yeah I noticed that with the brett saison as well. The berry flavor was quite intense initially then became more muted with age, though that subdued berry flavor played very well with the brett funkiness fortunately.
     
  7. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    Hmmm not sure how I missed that. That sounds really good and right up the alley of what I'm looking for. "Poor mans sour". Pefect! :slight_smile:
     
  8. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    Yeah, I never really put much thought into putting them in a stout or porter, but that is also a great idea.
     
  9. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    If the only thing holding you back from sours is the time (year to finish). Why not go the sour wort method with some Good Belly? You can be enjoying a tasty Berliner in about 2 weeks.
     
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  10. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Somewhere in the archives you might encounter a recipe for and imperial stout with raspberry from Weyerbacher. It dates back several years, but the recipe was supplied by a brewer from there and was well liked by some peeps I know who wanted to know more about it.
     
  11. Yalc

    Yalc Zealot (501) Nov 5, 2011 Florida

    Agreed. I made a berliner (goodbelly) with about .75lbs /gal raspberries this past summer. Will be doing it again for sure.
     
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  12. anteater

    anteater Pooh-Bah (1,936) Sep 10, 2012 Oregon
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    This was my first thought as well. I'm not too familiar with what mulberries taste like but a raspberry stout sounds really appealing to me. It could be a regular or imperial stout, add some cocoa nibs, add some vanilla bean, or just add raspberries on their own!
     
  13. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    Intriguing. Care to extrapolate?
     
  14. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    http://www.milkthefunk.com/wiki/Alternative_Bacteria_Sources

    1) Collect wort.
    2) Cool to 100-110F.
    3) Add Goodbelly (mango flavor works nice).
    4) Leave at room temp for 36-48 hrs.
    5) Rack to kettle and do quick boil (I do 10min).
    6) Cool and pitch yeast, per the usual.

    You can also sour wort with some uncrushed grain instead of Goodbelly. But it takes a little longer and ideally should keep temp around 90F. Also, it runs the risk of wild yeast infection.
     
  15. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    In my opinion, mulberries are not too flavorful. They can be pretty sweet, but are sort of generic berry-flavored. I grew up around them an would stop to snack on them when I walked by a neighbor's yard that had a mulberry tree, but I never knew anyone to cook with them. Fast forward 3.5 decades and my mother-in-law shared some mulberry jam with me and I had the same perception. Sweet (in this case with added sugar) and not super-distinctive.
     
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  16. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I'll add that I wish I still lived near mulberry trees. I probably would explore them in cooking and brewing and mead-mazing and so forth. Plus, they attract birds, so it might pique my inner bird nerd. Double plus, they are botanically interesting, a multiple fruit (one fruiting body from multiple flowers), and there are not a whole lot of examples. When I was teaching plant science classes in a northern WI college, no one knew this fruit, so it made for a poor example (fortunately, pineapple is also a multiple fruit). Yeah, not really a beer post, but I don't want to dis the mulberry.
     
  17. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    Yeah I pretty much have the same impression regarding mulberries. Certainly not a great berry by any means. "Generic berry" flavor sums them up pretty well. I have about 2 lbs of those and maybe a bit more of the black raspberries so figured I might as well use them both in a beer. I would much prefer to use blackberries or even red raspberries with my "blackcaps," but I takes what I can get. :wink:
     
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  18. Soneast

    Soneast Pooh-Bah (1,751) May 9, 2008 Wisconsin
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    Ok cool, thanks much! Well I think I have narrowed it down to either @VikeMan 's raspberry grisette (most likely what I am going with) or giving the berliner weiss Good Belly technique a go. Might do some more research on that one before I take the plunge.
     
  19. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    The Berliner will turn out great for sure, especially with the berries added. And if you do a 10-15 min boil post souring, you won't have to worry about any bacteria/wild yeast infecting your clean gear. Not turning you away from the raspberry grisette though, as that sounds tasty as well
     
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  20. Yalc

    Yalc Zealot (501) Nov 5, 2011 Florida

    What he said.....down to the milkthefunk wiki which I also used. The goodbelly got mine down to 3.5 pH in 48hrs in my garage which was 85-90 F. I used WLP 565 + a pack of US05 cause I was worried about the 565 at that pH. I'm sure you could just use german ale or cal ale and get good results.
     
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