Averagely Perfect Dubbel - Poll #35 - Syrup Addition Timing

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, May 31, 2018.

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When should the D-90 Syrup be added?

Poll closed Jun 2, 2018.

  1. Beginning of Boil

    1 vote(s)
    4.3%

  2. 50 minutes to go in Boil

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  3. 40 minutes to go in Boil

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  4. 30 minutes to go in Boil

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  5. 20 minutes to go in Boil

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  6. 10 minutes to go in Boil

    9 vote(s)
    39.1%

  7. Flameout

    11 vote(s)
    47.8%

  8. At High Krausen

    2 vote(s)
    8.7%

  9. In Secondary

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (1,962) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    -> Poll #34 <- determined that the specific concentrations for Calcium, Chloride, and Sulfates. This poll will determine the recommended timing of the D-90 Syrup addition.

    When this poll is done, I will look at the data a few different ways to determine the central tendency. It may or may not be as simple as a plurality would indicate. There may or may not be a runoff. It all depends on the data.

    For those looking ahead, the next (and last) poll will determine the recommended carbonation level.

    This poll will be open for 48 hours.

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please send them via beermail. Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand and not about how you would have asked the question differently. Lobbying for votes and intelligent discussion of each choice's relative merits is encouraged.

    The Averagely Perfect Dubbel Recipe so far...

    5 Gallons into the fermenter
    Target ABV: 7.0%
    OG: 1.065
    FG: 1.012
    IBUs: 24 (Tinseth)
    Yeast: Wyeast 3787 or WLP530
    Mash (recommended): 60 Minutes @ 152F
    Assumed Mash Efficiency: 70%
    Boil Length (recommended): 60 minutes
    Fermentation: Pitch at 66F, ramping up naturally or via temperature control to 73F over 2-3 days
    Overall Water Profile:
    ---Ca 68 ppm
    ---Cl 90 ppm
    ---SO4 41 ppm

    Grains/Fermentables:
    ---Belgian Pilsner Malt (86%)
    ---D-90 Syrup (8%)
    ---Caramunich (4% Total)
    ---Special B (2%)

    Hops:
    60 minutes: Styrian Goldings (1.2 ounces, 5% AA)
    10 minutes: Styrian Goldings (0.5 ounces, 5% AA)
     
    #1 VikeMan, May 31, 2018
  2. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    When I talked to the manufacturer they said to do 10min
     
    #2 crcostel, May 31, 2018
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  3. Brewday

    Brewday Initiate (152) Dec 25, 2015 New York

    I've never used it but i would think If you add it to the boil you're going to lose some of it when you drain it to the fermenter. I usually leave 3/4 gal of junk behind so i would think sterilizing and adding it to the fermenter would be better.
     
    #3 Brewday, Jun 1, 2018
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  4. CarolusP

    CarolusP Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2015 Minnesota

    I went with flameout. That should be plenty hot enough to get it incorporated into the wort and to sterilize it (if that's even a concern), but won't boil off any of its aromas.
     
    #4 CarolusP, Jun 1, 2018
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  5. pweis909

    pweis909 Poo-Bah (1,906) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Since these syrups are made via boiling, I don't think there is a huge danger of losing a lot of aroma to the boil. I usually add syrups while bringing up to a boil to minimize risk of scorching. That isn't going to win, so using the same logic, my vote will be more meaningful at flameout.
     
    #5 pweis909, Jun 2, 2018
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  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (1,962) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It would be tempting to call this one for Flameout, but probably not justified. I'm going to run off 10 Minutes vs Flameout.
     
    #6 VikeMan, Jun 3, 2018
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