Averagely Perfect ESB - Poll #23 - Bittering Hop Philosphy

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, Apr 11, 2017.

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What should the Bittering Hop Philosophy be?

Poll closed Apr 13, 2017.

  1. Use one or more of the previously selected Flavor/Aroma Hops for bittering.

    28 vote(s)
    87.5%

  2. Use a High Alpha Acid, Low Cohumulone Hop.

    1 vote(s)
    3.1%

  3. Don't restict to Low Cohumulone and don't restrict to the Flavor/Aroma Hops for bittering.

    3 vote(s)
    9.4%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    -> Poll #22 <- determined that neither Fuggle nor Jester will be used as flavor/aroma hops.

    This poll will determine if the Bittering hops (arbitrarily defined for this recipe as hops added with at least 45 minutes remaining in the boil), if any, should be one or more of the varieties already selected for flavor/aroma, or if they should be a high Alpha Acid, Low Cohumulone variety, or if neither restriction should apply. These are non-quantitative choices, so straight plurality will win.

    This poll will be open for 48 hours (or less if there's a massacre in progress).

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please send them via beermail. Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand and not about how you would have asked the question differently. Lobbying for votes and intelligent discussion of each choice's relative merits is encouraged.

    The Averagely Perfect ESB Recipe so far...

    Target ABV: 5.4%
    OG: 1.053
    FG: 1.012 (77.4% Apparent Attenuation)

    Grain Bill:
    ---Maris Otter (89%)
    ---English Crystal Malt (~55L) (5%)
    ---English Dark Crystal (~80L) (2%)
    ---Invert Sugar #2 (4%)

    Flavor/Aroma Hops:
    ---EKG, Target, Northdown

    Mash Temperature (recommended): 154F
    Mash Length (recommended): 60 minutes
    Yeast Strain: Wyeast 1469
     
    #1 VikeMan, Apr 11, 2017
  2. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    Use one of the ones we already voted in for me. probably Target, but I have never used Northdown so maybe that if others convince me.
     
    #2 Granitebeard, Apr 11, 2017
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  3. Mohican88

    Mohican88 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2010 Ohio

    I had my hopes up to use Challenger as the bittering hop and am the lone wolf on the high alpha/lo-cohumulone choice at this point. That said, should things keep trending toward using one of the previously selected varieties I will be lobbying for Northdown since Challenger is one of its descendants with similar characteristics.
     
    #3 Mohican88, Apr 11, 2017
  4. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    #4 wspscott, Apr 11, 2017
  5. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    Same opinion as last poll -- 3 hops is enough.

    We have a good variety already anyway so we don't need more.
     
    #5 crcostel, Apr 12, 2017
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  6. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    Nice link.

    I think Challenger is Out, but here is the link to Target

    https://ychhops.com/varieties/target
     
    #6 crcostel, Apr 12, 2017
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  7. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Mostly for simplicity, I vote for using what we have. Target and Northdown are dual purpose. As long as we have a healthy bittering charge, I'll be happy. Late hop IBUs just don't register on my palate.
     
    #7 pweis909, Apr 12, 2017
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  8. Mohican88

    Mohican88 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2010 Ohio

    Alas, I have caved and jumped ship since my choice is being beaten so badly...
     
    #8 Mohican88, Apr 12, 2017
  9. crcostel

    crcostel Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2006 Illinois

    I think ESBs should be heavily tilted towards bittering vs. late hopping. I also think we should not dry hop.

    That being said, I am hoping we are in the lower (30-40ibu) range.
     
    #9 crcostel, Apr 12, 2017
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  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    I would have called this one sooner, but my connection was down.
    "Use one or more of the previously selected Flavor/Aroma Hops for bittering" it is.
     
    #10 VikeMan, Apr 13, 2017
  11. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    #11 wspscott, Apr 14, 2017
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