Averagely Perfect NorthEast IPA - Poll #4 - Main Base Malt(s)

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Select one or more main Base Malts

Poll closed May 17, 2016.

  1. North American 2-Row Brewer's Malt

    41 vote(s)
    53.2%

  2. North American Pale Ale Malt

    24 vote(s)
    31.2%

  3. German Pale Ale Malt

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  4. Belgian Pale Ale Malt

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  5. Maris Otter

    14 vote(s)
    18.2%

  6. Golden Promise

    16 vote(s)
    20.8%

  7. Pearl

    3 vote(s)
    3.9%

  8. Optic

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  9. North American Pilsner Malt

    3 vote(s)
    3.9%

  10. Continental Pilsner Malt

    7 vote(s)
    9.1%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    -> Poll #3 <- determined that Generic Two Row or Pale Ale Malt or Pilsner are IN. Flaked Oats are IN,
    Carapils and/or Other Crystal Malt(s) are potentially in. Wheat Malt is potentially In. Honey Malt is potentially in.

    This poll will determine the main base malt(s) (Generic Two Row, Pale Ale Malt, and/or Pilsner).

    This is a straight plurality poll, unless by some miracle more than one choice gets votes from more than 50% of respondents, in which case there will be another poll to sort out whether there will be multiple malts from this list in. Otherwise, winner take all. Consider jumping ship to a similar choice if your first choice is losing. You can select more than one choice. Want something that's not listed? Write it in.

    I recommend you think about this in terms of not only your personal preferences, but also in the context of the ABV and Final Gravity (and thus the attenuation) already selected, as well as any possible yeast strain selection that might be kicking around in your head.

    This poll will be open for 48 hours.

    If you have issues with or suggestions for methodologies used in this project, please send them via beermail. Let's keep the threads themselves on topic to the question at hand and not about how you would have asked the question differently.

    (This is the fourth Averagely Perfect project. If you don't know what these are about, see the genesis of the first one here... http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-averagely-perfect-american-ipa-project.59552/ and subsequent polls. Or do a search on Averagely Perfect American IPA, Averagely Perfect American Stout, or Averagely Perfect Saison.)

    The Averagely Perfect NorthEast IPA Recipe so far...

    5 Gallons
    ABV: 6.5%
    OG: 1.062
    FG: 1.012
    Grain Bill:
    ---Generic Two Row, Pale Ale Malt, and/or Pilsner (TBD, this poll)
    ---Flaked Oats
    ---Carapils and/or Other Crystal Malt(s) (possibly in, TBD future poll)
    ---Wheat Malt (possibly in, TBD future poll)
    ---Honey Malt (possibly in, TBD future poll)
     
    #1 VikeMan, May 15, 2016
  2. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    2-row or Pale Malt...unless the others are particularly common in beers of this style.
     
    #2 JohnSnowNW, May 15, 2016
  3. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
    Pooh-Bah

    Best ale 2 row and marris otter 25/75 respectively
     
    #3 GormBrewhouse, May 15, 2016
  4. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    @VikeMan, please remind me. What distinguishes Pale Ale malt from the other choices? Thanks.
     
    #4 utahbeerdude, May 15, 2016
  5. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    Maris Otter, the greatest base mate there is!
     
    #5 InVinoVeritas, May 15, 2016
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  6. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    The pale ale malt vote is getting split among Maris, GP, NA Pale Ale, etc. Consequently, all pale ale malts are losing, despite pale ale malts currently having the most votes, collectively If you want to see a pale ale malt, you might consider switching votes to make sure one of them is a winner. Just observing from the grandstand. I have no horse in this race.
     
    #6 pweis909, May 15, 2016
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Pale Ale malt is kilned slightly darker than generic two row.
    For example, "Rahr 2-Row Malt" is 1.7L and "Rahr Pale Ale Malt" is 3-4L.
     
    #7 VikeMan, May 15, 2016
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  8. Yalc

    Yalc Zealot (501) Nov 5, 2011 Florida

    Thanks for that clarification. Now I can back the more kilned of the two. Just tied up the race.
     
    #8 Yalc, May 16, 2016
  9. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Pils. All the neipa beers I have done with two row miss the mark.
     
    #9 SFACRKnight, May 16, 2016
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  10. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    Agreed. I'm drinking a 40% Pils, 30% kolsch, 20% 2-row, 10% wheat (small % of honey malt) using gigayeast Vermont Ale, with cascade, montueka, and citra. I've had zero NE IPAs (technically I had 1 sample at a brew club meeting of Heady Topper last year, but I've read tasting notes on many popular examples) due to my proximity to NE. But this beer is rich malty but not heavy, peachy, cloudy, smooth, juicy, and citrusy without being orangey, and at 6%, extremely crushable. Just one data point.
     
    #10 scurvy311, May 16, 2016
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  11. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah

    OK, I will be that guy. What is exactly the 'mark'!?!:astonished:

    Cheers!
     
    #11 JackHorzempa, May 16, 2016
  12. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I didn't vote for pils... just some NE PA malt....

    but would not hate it if it gets involved.

    Pils is likely making it into my next Turbid Nightmare.
     
    #12 psnydez86, May 16, 2016
  13. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Jack, the most authentic grist (read: most similar to heady and sip of sunshine) used pils as a base with a touch of caravienne and flaked oats. The finished beer had a hazy golden glow to it, while my last one that you received samples of seemed dull and lifeless in color and appearance. These beers focus so much on yeast and hops, the grain bill can easily get in the way.
     
    #13 SFACRKnight, May 16, 2016
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  14. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah

    I have an IPA fermenting that's pretty close to that mix... 10lbs Maris and 4 of pale. (plus a pound of Crystal 40) so the base on mine is something like 70 / 30.
    Wish this poll was a month later so I could report how it comes out...
     
    #14 JrGtr, May 16, 2016
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  15. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I have a suspicion some people may not be familiar with this style.
     
    #15 SFACRKnight, May 16, 2016
  16. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    I will be the first to admit, I'm totally unfamiliar with this style. My only experience, is what I've read about it. However, I will be traveling to Boston later this week and hope to do some "research" on the style. :slight_smile:
     
    #16 Supergenious, May 16, 2016
  17. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
    Pooh-Bah

    Maybe different than your info, perhaps.
     
    #17 GormBrewhouse, May 16, 2016
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  18. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    North American 2-Row Brewer's Malt it is.
     
    #18 VikeMan, May 17, 2016
  19. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    #19 VikeMan, May 17, 2016
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  20. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

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