Averagely Perfect Saison - Poll #26 - Boil Length

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Choose a Boil Length

Poll closed Feb 18, 2015.

  1. 30 minutes

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  2. 40 minutes

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  3. 50 minutes

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  4. 60 minutes

    9 vote(s)
    21.4%

  5. 70 minutes

    3 vote(s)
    7.1%

  6. 80 minutes

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%

  7. 90 minutes

    28 vote(s)
    66.7%

  8. 100 minutes

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  9. 110 minutes

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  10. 120 minutes

    1 vote(s)
    2.4%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    The previous poll (#25) determined that the recommended mash length will be 60 minutes.

    This poll (#26) will determine the boil length. If you want a boil length not listed, write it in. (After boil length is determined, we'll move on to hops.)

    When this poll is done, I will look at the data a few different ways to determine the central tendency. It may or may not be as simple as a plurality would indicate. There may or may not be a runoff. It all depends on the data. Ultimately, the selected time will be rounded to the nearest 5 minutes.

    I recommend you think about this in terms of not only your personal preferences, but also in the context of the recipe so far. Design the best beer you can, given what's already been decided. Resist the urge to try to steer the recipe back toward a beer that might be impossible. Also, I strongly suspect many folks have not made a beer quite like this recipe (so far) before, so please discuss the options at length.

    This poll will be open for 36 hours.

    (For those who don't know what I'm talking about, see these threads for the first two beers we did (and the bazillion ensuing polls and the final recipes...
    http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-averagely-perfect-american-ipa-project.59552/
    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/averagely-perfect-american-stout-poll-1-abv.131209/ )

    Issues with methodology? Take 'em to beermail please.

    The Averagely Perfect Saison so far...

    Batch Size: 5 Gallons
    ABV: 5.7%
    OG: 1.045
    FG: 1.002
    Mash Recommendation: Single Infusion @ 150F, 60 Minutes, no Mashout
    Assumed Mash Efficiency: 70%

    Grain Bill:
    Belgian Pilsner Malt (68%)
    Flaked Wheat (17%)
    Vienna malt (15%)

    Yeasts:
    WLP565/Wyeast 3724 at beginning of fermentation
    WLP644, 0.5 Liter Starter Recommended, added to primary when beer/wort reaches gravity of 1.033
     
    #1 VikeMan, Feb 16, 2015
  2. epic1856

    epic1856 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2006 California

    90 minutes to make sure there will be no DMS down the road.
     
    #2 epic1856, Feb 16, 2015
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  3. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
    Pooh-Bah

    Pils malt = 90 min.
     
    #3 pweis909, Feb 16, 2015
  4. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    90 mins

    Not really worried about DMS, but I tend to do 90 min boils when I use pils, sometimes I forget and do 60 min, never noticed a problem.
     
    #4 wspscott, Feb 16, 2015
  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah

    I've heard it from a trusted source that modern day Pilsner malts have somewhat lower SMM values then Pilsner malts of the past. He stated that a 90 minute boil is not a requirement and that a 75 minute boil is more than sufficient. After learning this I have shortened my boils for Pilsner malt worts to 75 minutes and I have never perceived any DMS in those beers.

    Maybe as @wspscott has posted, only 60 minutes is really needed.

    Cheers!
     
    #5 JackHorzempa, Feb 16, 2015
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  6. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    A 75 minute boil is my default unless I want to increase gravity or melanoidins with an extended boil. I haven't had DMS issues with Castle or Briess pilsner using a 75 minute boil.
     
    #6 Brew_Betty, Feb 16, 2015
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  7. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    I've done 45 w/o issues.
     
    #7 jbakajust1, Feb 16, 2015
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  8. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    75 minute write in.
     
    #8 ChrisMyhre, Feb 17, 2015
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  9. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Curious, with pils?
     
    #9 FeDUBBELFIST, Feb 17, 2015
  10. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
    Pooh-Bah

    #10 PortLargo, Feb 17, 2015
  11. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    Yup, Pils, Flaked Corn, and 6 Row. 45 minute boil, 45 minute hop stand, and 45 minute chill, still no DMS. Not that I would recommend ever doing it.
     
    #11 jbakajust1, Feb 17, 2015
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  12. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I use pils for almost everything and do 60 min boils. So 60 it is.
     
    #12 SFACRKnight, Feb 17, 2015
  13. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
    Pooh-Bah

    60 for me. Never had any DMS issues to my knowledge.
     
    #13 OddNotion, Feb 17, 2015
  14. epic1856

    epic1856 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2006 California

    Looks like this poll is a lock. 90 min has over 2/3rds of the votes.
     
    #14 epic1856, Feb 18, 2015
  15. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    90 minutes in a landslide.
     
    #15 VikeMan, Feb 18, 2015
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