Averagely Perfect Saison - Poll #4 - Which Saccharomyces strain(s)?

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Which Saccharomyces strain(s) will be used?

Poll closed Jan 9, 2015.

  1. WLP565/Wyeast 3724

    32 vote(s)
    51.6%

  2. WLP566

    4 vote(s)
    6.5%

  3. Wyeast 3711

    12 vote(s)
    19.4%

  4. Lallemand Belle Saison

    2 vote(s)
    3.2%

  5. Mangrove Jack's Belgian Ale

    2 vote(s)
    3.2%

  6. WLP585*

    7 vote(s)
    11.3%

  7. Wyeast 3725*

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%

  8. Wyeast 3726*

    12 vote(s)
    19.4%

  9. ECY Saison Brasserie*

    6 vote(s)
    9.7%

  10. Yeast Bay Wallonian Farmhouse

    4 vote(s)
    6.5%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    The previous poll (#3) determined that we'll use a Saccharomyces strain(s), followed by a Brettanomyces strain(s) in primary, sometime before attenuation with the Sacch strain(s) is complete.

    This poll will determine which Sacch strain(s) to pitch at the beginning of primary fermentation.

    You can select more than one strain. If two or more strains are selected by more than 40% of voters, they'll be considered by another poll, alone and in combination with each other (to determine if just one sacch strain or multiple sacch strains will be pitched). If one or zero strains in this poll (#4) are selected by more than 40% of the voters, the strain with the most votes wins (straight plurality), and will be the only sacch strain pitched.

    If your first choice is losing miserably, consider jumping ship to your second choice before the poll is closed. The new poll format allows it.

    Please note some of the candidates are marked with an asterisk. Those strains are either seasonal or apt to be unavailable at any random time. If any of these strains ends up in the recipe, there will also be another poll(s) to determine a closest recommended contingency substitute.

    If you want a strain that's not listed, write it in. And perhaps one of our esteemed moderators will add it to the poll. And remember, you can change your votes up until the poll closes.

    This poll will be open for 36 hours.
    (For those who don't know what I'm talking about, see these threads for the first two beers we did (and the bazillion ensuing polls and the final recipes...
    http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-averagely-perfect-american-ipa-project.59552/
    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/averagely-perfect-american-stout-poll-1-abv.131209/ )

    Issues with methodology? Take 'em to beermail please.

    The Averagely Perfect Saison so far...

    Yeast: Saccharomyces strain(s), followed by Brettanomyces strain(s) in primary, sometime before attenuation with the Sacch strain(s) is complete.
     
    #1 VikeMan, Jan 7, 2015
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Crap. Lallemand "Balle" Saison --> Lallemand Belle Saison
     
    #2 VikeMan, Jan 7, 2015
  3. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah

    ECY is hard to get a hold of. I think we should scrap that one right off the bat.
     
    #3 jlordi12, Jan 7, 2015
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  4. udubdawg

    udubdawg Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2006 Kansas

    if 585 was in season that'd be my easy choice. Love that stuff.
     
    #4 udubdawg, Jan 7, 2015
  5. Smw356

    Smw356 Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2013 Ohio

    how about yeast bay wallonian farmhouse
     
    #5 Smw356, Jan 7, 2015
  6. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    Dupont all the way.
     
    #6 ChrisMyhre, Jan 7, 2015
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  7. Smw356

    Smw356 Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2013 Ohio

    or WL644 :stuck_out_tongue:
     
    #7 Smw356, Jan 7, 2015
  8. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    Really hard to argue with Dupont, makes delicious beer and is easily available

    Not a huge fan of Belle Saison, it makes a decent beer, but the convenience of dry yeast is outweighed by the "simplicity", definitely not as good as Dupont. Same goes for 3711 and it doesn't have the benefits of dry yeast.
     
    #8 wspscott, Jan 7, 2015
  9. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    Do I need to even write what I voted for?
     
    #9 jbakajust1, Jan 7, 2015
  10. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    My vote is for NOT 3711. I've used it twice. It's easy, high attenuating and I'm over it.
     
    #10 sjverla, Jan 7, 2015
  11. checktherhyme

    checktherhyme Savant (1,036) Apr 8, 2008 Washington

    Am I the only one who loves Belle Saison yeast? I have brewed with nearly every strain that is commercially available and the Belle is as good as any in my opinion.
     
    #11 checktherhyme, Jan 7, 2015
  12. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    @Smw356 I have added Yeast Bay as an option, please feel free to cast your vote for it in the poll.
     
    #12 jbakajust1, Jan 7, 2015
  13. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah

    I liked it, as well.
     
    #13 jlordi12, Jan 7, 2015
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  14. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    May need to double batch this one just to try this strain regardless of results of poll.
     
    #14 SFACRKnight, Jan 7, 2015
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  15. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
    Pooh-Bah

    For those voters who like 3724, you will love 3726 . . . just sayin' . . .
     
    #15 PortLargo, Jan 7, 2015
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  16. BrewGator

    BrewGator Initiate (0) Dec 17, 2009 North Carolina

    I love WLP566. It's supposedly another Dupont isolate and gives that great Dupont fruitiness and mild spice without the earthy characters that I personally don't care for. It also attenuates reliably without the over-attenuation of 3711.
     
    #16 BrewGator, Jan 7, 2015
  17. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    What about a copitch primary sacc?
     
    #17 jae, Jan 7, 2015
  18. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
    Pooh-Bah

    ECY Saison Brasserie has been a part of the best Saison's I have made. I would have voted for it, but I know getting it in everyone's hands will be too much of a pain. I went with WLP585 since I have wanted to use it for a while and people seem to only have great things to say about it.
     
    #18 OddNotion, Jan 7, 2015
  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah

    Both ECY08 and WLP585 make outstanding Saison beers. Obtaining WLP585 is going to be problematic since it is part of the White Labs Platinum series (a seasonal).

    I will be homebrewing with WLP585 when it is released in July-Sept. 2015.

    Cheers!
     
    #19 JackHorzempa, Jan 7, 2015
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  20. udubdawg

    udubdawg Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2006 Kansas

    Great yeast. Makes a nice belgian pale ale too. I even make cider with it when I'm feeling a little experiment-y. In your experience, does it tend to build krausen for a day and then fall to bottom and start to work vigorously? Every time for me.
     
    #20 udubdawg, Jan 7, 2015
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