Averagely Perfect Saison - Poll #41 - Buyer Remorse Part 2

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by VikeMan, Mar 16, 2015.

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Which Recipe Feature(s) will be changed?

Poll closed Mar 18, 2015.

  1. Change Brett Strain to WLP650 (bruxellensis)

    5 vote(s)
    13.2%

  2. Co-Pitch Brett instead of delaying until SG of 1.033

    7 vote(s)
    18.4%

  3. Both

    26 vote(s)
    68.4%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Poll #40 ended with two changes getting votes from more than 50% of the voters, but they got the same number of votes. So this poll will determine which (or both) change(s) actually happens. That way we can be sure, in context, that more than 50% wanted (or not) both changes together.

    This is a simple plurality vote.

    For those looking ahead, after this poll will be the fermentation temperature(s) polls, then the Water polls.
    This poll will be open for 48 hours.

    (For those who don't know what I'm talking about, see these threads for the first two beers we did (and the bazillion ensuing polls and the final recipes...
    http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-averagely-perfect-american-ipa-project.59552/
    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/averagely-perfect-american-stout-poll-1-abv.131209/ )

    Issues with methodology? Take 'em to beermail please.

    The Averagely Perfect Saison so far...

    Batch Size: 5 Gallons
    ABV: 5.7%
    OG: 1.045
    FG: 1.002
    Mash Recommendation: Single Infusion @ 150F, 60 Minutes, no Mashout
    Assumed Mash Efficiency: 70%
    90 Minute Boil
    IBUs: 24

    Grain Bill:
    Belgian Pilsner Malt (68%)
    Flaked Wheat (17%)
    Vienna malt (15%)

    Yeasts:
    WLP565/Wyeast 3724 at beginning of fermentation
    WLP644, 0.5 Liter Starter Recommended, added to primary when beer/wort reaches gravity of 1.033 [Subject to change in this poll]

    Hops:
    60 Minutes - Saaz and Hallertau, approx. 15 IBUs, Split 50/50
    10 Minutes - 0.75 ounces Saaz , 0.75 ounces Hallertau
    Flameout/Whirlpool/Hopstand - 0.75 ounces Saaz, 0.75 ounces Hallertau
     
    #1 VikeMan, Mar 16, 2015
  2. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I could have prevented this poll by voting in the previous poll.
     
    #2 Brew_Betty, Mar 17, 2015
  3. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    Both, in for a penny, in for a pound :slight_smile:
     
    #3 wspscott, Mar 17, 2015
  4. epic1856

    epic1856 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2006 California

    Just thought of something. Can you make a starter with both WLP565 and the Brett strain in the same container? If we are going to co-pitch. Just wanna kill two birds with one stone.
     
    #4 epic1856, Mar 17, 2015
  5. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    Personally if we're co-pitching, I would consider NOT making a starter for the Brett. But, that's because I wanted to pitch at bottling.
     
    #5 JohnSnowNW, Mar 17, 2015
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  6. epic1856

    epic1856 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2006 California

    But we already voted to make a .5 L starter, unless we're throwing out that poll as well and re-vote due to new brett strain in play.
     
    #6 epic1856, Mar 17, 2015
  7. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    I guess I just assumed we'd have to, since they were two separate polls. I mean, we're also no longer pitching at 1.033.
     
    #7 JohnSnowNW, Mar 17, 2015
  8. epic1856

    epic1856 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2006 California

    Unless I'm reading it wrong what was wrote in the first post in this thread it doesn't look like it.

     
    #8 epic1856, Mar 17, 2015
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    If anyone feels that (in the event this poll finishes the way it looks like it will) we need to revisit Brett starter size, speak up here. My guess is that the result would probably be the same (0.5 liters), but we'll do it if there's enough call for it.
     
    #9 VikeMan, Mar 17, 2015
  10. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    *Raises hand*
     
    #10 JohnSnowNW, Mar 17, 2015
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  11. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I voted for both. I can't feature checking my gravity for the right time to pitch my brett. Also, with the sacc strain being notorious for stalling, I think the brett will gain a foothold at the point where this happens. So I vote nay on the brett starter...
     
    #11 SFACRKnight, Mar 17, 2015
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  12. epic1856

    epic1856 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2006 California

    Either one works for me as far as a starter is concerned. No starter for brett will be one less step which I'm OK with.
     
    #12 epic1856, Mar 17, 2015
  13. ChrisMyhre

    ChrisMyhre Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2013 Massachusetts

    Another vote for no starter.
     
    #13 ChrisMyhre, Mar 18, 2015
  14. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Looks like the Brett strain will be changed to WLP650 and that it will be co-pitched with the Sacch strain. There's enough clamor here for a revisit on the starter size, so that will be next.
     
    #14 VikeMan, Mar 18, 2015
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