Averagely Perfect Saison - Poll #8 - FG (and OG)

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What shoudl the FG (and OG ) target be?

Poll closed Jan 16, 2015.

  1. 1.005 (with OG of 1.048)

    9 vote(s)
    19.6%

  2. 1.004 (with OG of 1.047)

    4 vote(s)
    8.7%

  3. 1.003 (with OG of 1.046)

    10 vote(s)
    21.7%

  4. 1.002 (with OG of 1.045)

    20 vote(s)
    43.5%

  5. 1.001 (with OG of 1.044)

    1 vote(s)
    2.2%

  6. 1.000 (with OG of 1.043)

    1 vote(s)
    2.2%

  7. 0.999 (with OG of 1.042)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  8. 0.998 (with OG of 1.041)

    1 vote(s)
    2.2%

  9. 0.997 (with OG of 1.040)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  10. 0.996 (with OG of 1.039)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (1,962) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    The previous poll (#7) determined that the target ABV will be 5.7%.

    This poll (#8) will determine the Final Gravity target, and incidentally the OG target (given the ABV of 5.7% and the FG choice). Want an FG higher or lower than those listed? Write it in. When this poll is done, I will look at the data a few different ways to determine if there is a central tendency. It may or may not be as simple as a plurality would indicate. There may or may not be a runoff(s). It all depends on the data.

    The ABV formula tying ABV, FG, and OG together is one of the standard home brewing formulas (ABV = 131.25 x (OG - FG)), not the more accurate/advanced one. This is so that the result is more likely to meet most people's expectations.
    This poll will be open for 48 hours.

    (For those who don't know what I'm talking about, see these threads for the first two beers we did (and the bazillion ensuing polls and the final recipes...
    http://beeradvocate.com/community/threads/the-averagely-perfect-american-ipa-project.59552/
    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/averagely-perfect-american-stout-poll-1-abv.131209/ )

    Issues with methodology? Take 'em to beermail please.

    The Averagely Perfect Saison so far...

    ABV: 5.7%
    OG: TBD (This Poll)
    FG: TBD (This Poll)
    Yeast: WLP565/Wyeast 3724, followed by WLP644 in primary, sometime before attenuation is complete (exact timing TBD).
     
    #1 VikeMan, Jan 14, 2015
  2. PortLargo

    PortLargo Devotee (484) Oct 19, 2012 Florida

    Some where there are some lurking yeast watching this thread doing "belly laughs" about how some BA'ers are predicting their behavior. Can't you just see Sacch giving Brett a high-five . . . saying they can't wait to get in the game. The yeast defensive coordinator is already preparing the game plan for temp/time while the offensive coordinator is smacking his lips waiting on the pitch rate. Special team coach will have a trick play or two ready, especially with two strains to call on . . . :rolling_eyes:
     
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  3. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    I've never had experience with FG dipping below 1.004 with Brett so I'm gonna go 1.004 on this one.
     
    #3 hoptualBrew, Jan 14, 2015
  4. PortLargo

    PortLargo Devotee (484) Oct 19, 2012 Florida

    For @VikeMan (or moderators?): Would it be beneficial to post the Attenuation percentage beside each selection?
     
    #4 PortLargo, Jan 14, 2015
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  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (1,962) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    1.005 1.048 89.7%
    1.004 1.047 91.6%
    1.003 1.046 93.5%
    1.002 1.045 95.6%
    1.001 1.044 97.7%
    1.000 1.043 100.0%
    0.999 1.042 102.4%
    0.998 1.041 104.8%
    0.997 1.040 107.4%
    0.996 1.039 110.1%

    FG, OG, Apparent Attenuation

    ETA: for anyone getting their calculators out, the derived OG values (that link the FG to the 5.7% ABV) were rounded to nearest thousandth for display.
     
    #5 VikeMan, Jan 14, 2015
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  6. pweis909

    pweis909 Poo-Bah (1,906) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I had the same thought, minus the metaphor. LOL
     
    #6 pweis909, Jan 14, 2015
  7. wspscott

    wspscott Champion (883) May 25, 2006 Kentucky

    I went with 1.003, but I am shooting in the dark and I doubt that I am precise enough in any part of my brewing to be able to nail the FG. Honestly, I doubt I could tell the difference between a beer at 1.001 and 1.005.
     
    #7 wspscott, Jan 14, 2015
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  8. Naugled

    Naugled Defender (640) Sep 25, 2007 New York

    I went with 96% attenuation, 1.002. The highest I've ever hit with a Saison/Brett blend was 94%. I want to see what the Brett does to the mouth feel at the higher attenuation.
     
    #8 Naugled, Jan 14, 2015
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  9. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Poo-Bah (1,819) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    These two strains are the two I use in my house saison. When co pitched into 5 gallons of 1.050 wort mashed in at 150 I hit 1.002 fg without raising my temps over 80. (FWIW I don't have my notes in front of me, I let the beer ferment at room temp for 3 days and ramped it up to the minimum recommended brett temp for 2 weeks)
     
    #9 SFACRKnight, Jan 14, 2015
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  10. epic1856

    epic1856 Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2006 California

    Compared to the previous two polls, this one is barely getting a peep.
     
    #10 epic1856, Jan 15, 2015
  11. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Devotee (454) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts

    I'm kind of shocked by the results right now. I thought this would be all over the map
     
    #11 jlordi12, Jan 15, 2015
  12. VikeMan

    VikeMan Poo-Bah (1,962) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Ok...
    Mode: 1.002
    Median: Between 1.002 and 1.003
    Mean: Between 1.002 and 1.003

    I'm calling this one for 1.002.
     
    #12 VikeMan, Jan 16, 2015
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  13. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Initiate (0) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia

    I fully expected 1.003-1.000 for this beer.. I'd say everyone had the correct expectations.
     
    #13 FATC1TY, Jan 16, 2015
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