BA Viet Speedway Trade Value

Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by RoundHead, Oct 31, 2014.

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  1. RoundHead

    RoundHead Crusader (452) Jan 11, 2014 California
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    I know it's hard to put value on a beer that hasn't been bottled and traded yet, but I just wanted some opinions on what it could get. Viet Speedway is one of my favorite beers and I can only imagine that the BA version is going to be great.

    Can it pull some heavy weights with a little + added. Like DBH or BA Abraxas?
     
  2. Kramerbarthomer

    Kramerbarthomer Pooh-Bah (2,116) Mar 22, 2012 Colorado
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    Based on what regular BA Speedway Stout trades for (shelf turd due to it being so damn expensive) ... I would guess it's not even close to that level...
     
  3. RoundHead

    RoundHead Crusader (452) Jan 11, 2014 California
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    Wow, really? You think this will trade for shelf turds or little more than that?

    It should be able to at least pull coffee Abraxas and stuff of that caliber right?
     
  4. Five_Four_Plus

    Five_Four_Plus Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2014 California

    I know it's not a popular concept at this point in the election cycle, but I think your answer lies somewhere in the middle of these two opinions.
     
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  5. Kramerbarthomer

    Kramerbarthomer Pooh-Bah (2,116) Mar 22, 2012 Colorado
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    Yup, it's somewhere in the middle.... It will certainly pull better beers than shelf turds... I was just commenting that BASS sits on shelves in Washington and Minnesota because they're asking $35-40 for a bottle and most people are not willing to pay for it... :slight_smile:

    But yes, I'm sure you'll be able to get some solid beers in trade for it... as so often is the answer BA Viet Speedway will probably trade close to $4$ with other comparable, limited brewery release beers...

    see this thread for more info on BASS...
    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/threads/ba-speedway-value.204247/
     
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  6. mythaeus

    mythaeus Pooh-Bah (2,074) Jul 22, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    (Sorry for the slight edit there, KB).

    Unless you see a large number of ISO posted in advance of or right after the release announcement, this statement in the past, now, tomorrow, and forever and ever and ever and ever will always hold true.

    Not directed at you, specifically, OP, but I really wish people would study and understand that statement before posting this question whenever a (new) beer is being re/released. Looking at ISO in the trade forum and what people offer up, before the release and after the release, and get the beers in your hands, THEN figure out what you want to trade it for, starting at $4$ unless you can really justify higher value, rather than planning to trade a beer that you don't yet have based on the best guesses of a few people on the forum.
     
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  7. RoundHead

    RoundHead Crusader (452) Jan 11, 2014 California
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    I understand it will trade for comparable, limited brewery release beers. The question was, what is comparable?

    I'm really sorry for even asking this question really. I will make sure I get the beer in hand, look at ISO's and then assess it's value.

    Thank you
     
  8. drummermattie02

    drummermattie02 Initiate (0) May 10, 2009 Texas

    Not directly on point, but AleSmith is also one of those breweries that do their barrel-aged beers so well that if I acquire, that's the end of the road for that bottle. Not many beers better than BA Speedway, and I'm sure this variant will be as good if not better.
     
  9. mgr78704

    mgr78704 Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Texas

    You can also gauge the public interest in a beer this way...in other words, are there more people trading it off trying to get other beers or are there more posts ISO of it. I would honestly wait until someone else posts an ISO for it and then decide if you think that's worth pursuing. Let the people ISO of it set the initial market for it and if what they're offering isn't good enough for someone to take it, they'll offer something else or more quantity for it.
     
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  10. RoundHead

    RoundHead Crusader (452) Jan 11, 2014 California
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    Thanks! Solid advice!
     
  11. Kramerbarthomer

    Kramerbarthomer Pooh-Bah (2,116) Mar 22, 2012 Colorado
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    There are hundreds, even thousands of beers that are comparable ... This is a really hard question to answer... if you listed a few beers you were interested in, that would help
     
  12. RoundHead

    RoundHead Crusader (452) Jan 11, 2014 California
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    I thought I did. It was said to not be on the BA Abraxas level, so I asked if it would be on the Coffee Abarxas level. Since this is a well received coffee brew like Viet Speedway.
     
  13. jermy

    jermy Zealot (640) Mar 30, 2013 Illinois
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    i would say no on coffee abraxas just because the price point is probably the same but the bottle count and limits per person will be much lower. but i am in the same boat as some of the others, i'll probably be getting 4 BA viet speedways, and they are going no where but my belly
     
  14. RoundHead

    RoundHead Crusader (452) Jan 11, 2014 California
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    * Coffee Abraxas
    * Mexican Cake Variants
    * Sump
    * BA Sump
     
  15. RoundHead

    RoundHead Crusader (452) Jan 11, 2014 California
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    I'll be doing the same with 2-3 of them, but was hoping to hit some wants with a bottle or 2.
     
  16. Kramerbarthomer

    Kramerbarthomer Pooh-Bah (2,116) Mar 22, 2012 Colorado
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    I'm sure it would pull Sump, but I would doubt it'd pull the other ones... but, hey, I've been wrong before! :slight_smile: Good luck!
     
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  17. RoundHead

    RoundHead Crusader (452) Jan 11, 2014 California
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    Thanks! Looks like all 4 are going in my belly as well!
     
  18. mythaeus

    mythaeus Pooh-Bah (2,074) Jul 22, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    Really, honestly didn't want you to feel sorry you asked. It's seems the question keeps popping up more often recently, sometimes because people worry about asking too much or too little for the beer.

    What is comparable to a new limited beer can only be determined after it's released, people have tried it, and a good number of trades have been made. There are pre-release hypes, like the case of DB Huna, but the ISO will show this and I don't see hypes as a good measure of what is comparable. Trade history is what matters.

    To me, the better question to ask is "WHY should the beer be traded for more than what you paid for?" compared to the beers you want to get (taken into consideration that no one asked you to specifically go out of your way up hill both ways and stand in line for 10 hours to get the beer). There are walez for walez and shelf for shelf, correspondingly similarly $4$. Anything in between, that is difficult for you and your trade partner to get locally so you 2 have to trade, is basically $4$. This "in between" is 90-95% of the beers being traded so there shouldn't be significant going over $ value. Only when a beer in 1 category is being traded one in another that's when $ value may not be as significant.
     
  19. RoundHead

    RoundHead Crusader (452) Jan 11, 2014 California
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    I don't know if I left the impression that I thought it would go over $4$, but if anything I thought I would have to concede some $ on a trade with the $30 price tag.

    and I would NEVER bring what I had to do to get a beer into the value of the trade. I find it completely ridiculous when other do it.
     
  20. mgr78704

    mgr78704 Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Texas

    I would try for the coffee abraxas 1:1...worst case scenario you get crickets and it doesn't happen anyway. You never know when the right BA who isn't holding onto it for the 'highest' offer to get posted. Almost anything can get done once if seen by the right set of eyes, but you'll never know until you try. Having had sump, I wouldn't recommend going for that one. The BA viet will almost certainly be better. Can't speak to BA sump though.
     
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