Barrel-Aged IPA?

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  1. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    In the 19th century Bass aged their IPA for 12 months in the brewery yard before the even put it on the ship bound for India. Long enough tp let the Brettanomyces in the barrels weave its magic. Though it wouldn't have picked up any oak as it was in neutral barrels.

    I had a project with Goose Island to brew a beer like this. The beer, Brewery Yard Stock Pale Ale, is unlike any other I've tasted. A long, lasting bitterness at the end, but funk up front. Probably as close to a 19th-century Pale Ale as you'll get.
     
  2. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Calvados barrels sounds OK too.
     
  3. tobelerone

    tobelerone Grand Pooh-Bah (4,220) Dec 1, 2010 New Jersey
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    I haven't had that one in a number of years but now I'm intrigued enough to pick one up next time it comes out (or maybe grab an old
    one collectIng dust and see if it's actually turned barleywine-esque).
     
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  4. zeff80

    zeff80 Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,425) Feb 6, 2006 Missouri
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    They're hit and miss for me. Great Divide used to do it every year for an anniversary brew.
     
  5. surfcaster

    surfcaster Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    Used to save two every year and have with one from year before. All the of onion /heat fades and one year later you have BW all the way--preferable to me.
     
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  6. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The point you make is valid, hell, I have a version of a British IPA influenced by your research at home now, and the Brett C is drying it out very nicely.

    Doom was an American DIPA aged in a Bourbon barrel. It had the char/Bourbon notes, and I was getting oxidized hop flavors from it, and lots of oaky Bourbon notes. It didn't work for me.

    The base beer is different, and the barrel is different.

    If you are in the stars around the time it comes out, you should find some to see how it compares to your GI project.
     
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  7. Lorianneb

    Lorianneb Pundit (919) Apr 27, 2012 New Jersey

    Kane does a barrel aged ipa called Parhelion. Tastes nothing like an ipa, it's all barrel. Had Cigar City humidor series ipa and that was spectacular. Not really barrel aged, just put on Spanish cedar for a short time. Still tasted like an ipa but the nose was straight up humidor aromas
     
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  8. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Everything old is new again.
     
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  9. Boomer4ES

    Boomer4ES Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2012 North Carolina

    This is what I was going to say as well, but it's not exactly an IPA. It is an IPA blended with a strong ale. Regardless, there are certainly hops present, and it tastes great, but I think the extra malt makes it work much better than most BA IPAs that I have had.
     
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  10. Wasatch

    Wasatch Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,050) Jun 8, 2005 Colorado
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    Only one I can think of off the top of my head right now, would be, tasty, but no bourbon.

    2X Oak'd IPA Double India Pale Ale | Southern Tier Brewing Company

    Cheers!
     
  11. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Or the slew of mediocre IPAs that Brewers push that aren't worth buying in the first place. BA IPAs are a nice break, the ones I've tried were very heavy on the bourbon, it was more like a 1/4 shot and a beer in the glass, but I loved Bourbon to begin with.
     
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  12. SoCal_Matt

    SoCal_Matt Savant (1,012) Jul 13, 2014 California
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    I have always wanted to try that one but never wanted to pony up the $20 for a bottle of it even though I have heard good things similar to what you said. All of the ones that I had were on draft at some of Stone's outposts.
     
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  13. archiebunkerjr

    archiebunkerjr Pundit (910) Oct 25, 2010 Michigan
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    Really great discussion here. I'm not a fan of barrel aged IPAs. They're like mopeds. They're fun to try once but you don't want your friends seeing you with one.
     
  14. Txex06

    Txex06 Maven (1,288) Dec 28, 2016 Texas
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    I had this barrel aged double IPA not long ago and found it delicious. Big citrus and piney hops, balanced out by not too sweet vanilla notes of the barrel.
     
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  15. sagescrubber

    sagescrubber Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2015 California

    Was it xS IPA - the Sierra Nevada collab minus the dry-hopped portion?
     
  16. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Savant (1,236) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    Firestone Double Barrel Ale deserves to be in this thread. As others have noted on other beers though, it's REALLY NOT AS GOOD if it's not super fresh. They're balancing brief oak exposure/character, with still present but fading hops, and there's a finite window. I bought an OOD 6pk for like $6 and it was still drinkable, but the magic was totally gone. That is an awesome brew though, especially in a can by the pool/lake.

    Hardywood Park in Richmond VA did a Bourbon DIPA that was pretty good. They are cicerone type guys, there, and even for non-traditional concotions ike this, aim for balance and stuff that pairs well, their BA'd beers are not ultra high ABV and usually are only in barrel for about 3 months. It appears they haven't brewed it in a while, they seem to have shifted their barrel access/barrel space for more traditional/better sellers like GBS, Quad, and the other stouts
     
  17. imfatsowhat

    imfatsowhat Initiate (0) Aug 20, 2013 California

    That is Correct
     
  18. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,790) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    Breckenridge 471 I think is a barrel aged dipa. I heard they have the same characteristics as dogfish heads burton baton.
     
  19. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    I've had a couple. IMO, when a brewery decides to make a BA IPA, they know what they're getting into, and if they're smart, they'll make a pairing worthy of the investment.

    For example: Beer'd Brewing, in Stonington, CT, took Realization, a fantastic DIPA in its own right, and aged it in gin barrels. The result was amazing.

    But a lot went into that. For starters, Realization wasn't chock full of new-school hop varietals that everyone expects to taste within 2-3 weeks of canning/bottling. You need a hop varietal that won't go to absolute shit if you age it.

    Second, the pairing with a gin barrel for a DIPA was inspired, and the result showed: I can't imagine the same beer aged on bourbon coming out half as good.

    Another example: Dogfish Head Burton Baton. Yes, it's aged on oak chips vice in spirits barrels. However, the success of the brew shows you could easily age it on bourbon or rum without a problem. @WesMantooth what do you think?

    So yes, I have had a (very small) handful of experiments that show this can be a good pairing, if done right.
     
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  20. HopHunter19

    HopHunter19 Initiate (0) May 2, 2015 Missouri

    The ipa aged on oak has been around for a while. Blind Pig by RR was one of the first examples. They're nice in moderation, but the oak can be a little harsh to have a lot of. As far as barrel aged ipa's, I'd think the downside of decreased hop character balances out the time taken to get barrel characteristics and makes it not so worth it. But what do I know...
     
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