Black Lives Matter @BeerAdvocate

Unfortunately the far left and far right radicals see it as an opportunity for their agenda. It’s a sad sight for this country. I’ve never seen anything racial on this site though.

 

A most welcome move, @Todd and @Jason - - and thank you for correctly framing this as "not politics" but human rights, humanity, and being humane to each other.
GIANT clap.

 

Thanks for this, Todd!

 

I can gladly say that I haven't personally witnessed racism in any form on BeerAdvocate, but unfortunately, I can't say that I'm all too shocked - which is terrible, because it is most certainly a shocking matter. BeerAdvocate aside, and its place to be an open, friendly, supportive, and welcoming community for all, this is definitely a topic that people all too often just look the other way on, while thinking, "well it's not my problem". Racism is a social problem. A world problem. A human problem, and therefore it should be the responsibility of each and every single one of us to tackle this head-on, and actively stand up and do something about it. I'm glad to see the issue acknowledged, and the rules and expectations made clear. We're all adults here, and it's 2020 for god's sake. There is no place for racism in modern society, and this shouldn't even be an issue within a community full of advocates.

Be kind to each other, regardless of race, creed, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion, occupation, or personal beliefs. Just be kind to each other. Respect beer, respect people. R-E-S-P-E-C-T!

Cheers everyone.

 

You haven't? I see it semi-regularly and often from a few members. Typically thinly veiled as Todd noted. I'd just block them, but you know, keep your friends close and your enemies closer and all that. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

Swing that banhammer against these shitbags @Todd .

 

And those are those most pernicious.

 

As a moderator for another group if we can even imagine a person is posting anything political, racist, defamatory we ban them. No gray areas, no "open to interpretation"-they are gone. Y'all can do it, i have faith.

 

Ignore button works well, I recommend it. But I think I may unignore all I have blocked, and start reporting them instead. Or perhaps now there will be no need, as they all "get the message"?

 

Thank God you put this out there. I come to this page to talk beer with like minded individuals. If I wanted to deal with racism, politics and the sort I'd go to the Ish-show known as Facebook.

Thank you Todd!

 

Well done Todd.
Thank you for expressing your views and taking a stand.

 

No never, I’m assuming as Todd says it’s quickly addressed.

 

This is a hard line, and I'm behind it. Kudos.

 

I applaud this stance and post. While it probably wont change the world, it does take action in this small corner of our world.
As allies we cant just sit back and be silent, we need to oppose any sort of racism or hate that we come across in our lives.

It is all of these small stances and actions that can add up to a large wave of societal change that we need to protect our fellow humans from hate at any level and on any forum.

Thank you @Todd and @Jason for taking a strong stance on the issue.

 

Glad to see this. I think most of us come here to the site to get away from all the other nonsense on social media.

 

This rules, and good on BA for taking this step. If you're not in full support of this, it's probably because you're part of the problem.

 

Kudos Todd.

 

I know you're still working on the policy details, but are you leaning toward “a reasonable person would find this statement racist” or “someone complained that the poster is being racist”?
I'm thinking particularly back to the Founder's/Tracy Evans lawsuit where some members were accused of racism because they supported Founder's.

 

Thanks @Todd. It needs to be said. To be silent is to be complicit.

As for banning thinly veiled comments, keep at it. It's pretty easy to avoid saying shitty things (no matter how small) about marginalized people on a beer forum.

Black lives matter.

 

Thank for addressing this, it is a very important issue.

I would like to note that this issue extends beyond your borders, which I am sure you are aware. As such may I suggest that if they are not already, that the international forums be monitored as well.

Cheers

 

This is a great start.

 

Here's what I've seen far too often in DC and Philly with black and latinx people:

Customer not familiar with craft beer comes into an establishment
Customer: I'd like a (well known international brand)
Bartender/server: Sorry, we don't have that.
No follow up, customer walks out, feeling slighted

Here's what should happen:
Customer not familiar with craft beer comes into an establishment
Customer: I'd like a (well known international brand)
Bartender/server: Hmm, the closest we have is this locally brewed pilsner (or whatever), would you like to try it? (is already pouring a sample)
Customer tries it, and whether or not they like it and order one, at least they were treated with respect.

Little things like this bring new folks into the fold, and let's folks know that you care.

 

Love it!!!!! It's dope seeing this take place!!!

 

Thanks Todd. This was welcome news after a difficult weekend. As someone who formerly participated in threads related to racism, diversity, and the like, I appreciate both your statement and action.

 

This is great to see! Thank you!

 

This is a beer-centric web site; there’s no room for politics or anything else that divides people. For that matter, I’ve seen other kinds of discourteous posts as well. How about a little more golden rule?

 

Thanks for posting this Todd, it's a shame that in this day and age people have to be reminded how to treat each other.

 

Love this idea! By the same spirit trying to introduce new beers with neighbors and colleagues in a similar matter is a great way to be more inclusive. Relationships have been a huge part of this hobby for me.

 

Real talk! Happens in the bay too. This is a great step.

 

This is a great move, Todd. This type of statement reinforces why I love this site. Shall we assume that sexism is also a form of hate? I have seen this quite a few times, and I don't think this should be tolerated. Inclusivity shouldn't have boundaries.

 

Well said Todd cheers

 

Thanks Todd! I hope to have a beer with you one day. But certainly not today, with the pandemic and the riots, and I live in the Twin Cities. Ugh.
Virtual Cheers to everyone!

 

Also, I will never understand the "All Lives Matter" and "Blue Lives Matter" stances.

Would you ever run into a cancer fundraiser screaming that heart disease kills people too? Of course not, that would be a dick move. It is the same thing. Fighting for one cause does not invalidate everyone else.

 

Bravo! I grew up in the Jim Crow south and the stench still lingers. I know this stuff inside out and I've been sick of it for decades. Thanks for going strongly on the record.

 

Well done.