Brewery with no location?

“According to a recent permit filing, a new microbrewery called Douglas Lager is set to open in Tacoma at 2101 Jefferson Avenue.”

@snaotheus so maybe not established yet but if you need an address you could use this one.

I immediately wondered if Tom Douglas is somehow involved but doesn’t look like it. This kind of reminds me of that Churchkey beer from a while back.

 

and if they in fact dont own a brewery its call a Gypsy brewer.

 

"There Does Not Exist" Brewing Company

 

According to the TTB:

BR-WA-21655(US brewing permit #)
Douglas Lager, The Lager Company, Inc.
2101 JEFFERSON AVE
Tacoma, WA 98402

(206) 556-6764
(206) 467-9800 (on rear label)

Google maps shows that location as the 7 Seas Brewing Co.

Well, legally, if the beers are being brewed at the 7 Seas facility by a separate company (which the different permit number implies), it'd be a tenent brewery, part of an Alternating Proprietorship.

Or, it could be a new company that purchased the 7 Seas brewery.

 

Does the BA system not have a way of dealing with Contract/Gypsy brewers?

 

A contract brewer brews the beer for you. You don't brew at their facility.

 

You give them your recipe, you arrange for packaging to arrive, they brew and package the beer, you arrange distro and sales. In your scenario, Company A is gypsy brewer, where they rent the facility and do the work. By definition, a contract brewer signs a contract to brew the beer.

 

Is there a definition of "contract" that I am unaware of?

What does GO think of the contract brewed Brooklyn beers that come out of the Matt factory?

 

The TTB's legal definition and description:
Industry Circular: 05-02
Alternating Proprietors at Brewery Premises
which includes this statement:

AP's are primarily determined by "ownership" - who owns the facility, the raw materials, the finished beer, the brewing license(s), etc.

I think, on a casual (non-legal) basis, the industry and the beer geekery have come to lump all the different legal ways a beer can be brewed in breweries not owned by the brand's owner - licensing, private label production, AP's, straight traditional contracts - as "contract brewing". Yeah, it's confusing -especially when it comes to the term "contract brewer" itself, which is used for both the brewery owner and the brand owner. I always figure it should at least be "contractor brewer" and "contractee brewer" but that never caught on.

I also agree with Oliver's "These are itinerant brewers, often referred to (if perhaps distastefully) as “gypsy brewers" but that might be too "woke" for some in the US where, unlike in Europe, the term is not recognized as a slur.

 

I do think the verb "gyp" or "gypped" has definitely fallen off in usage. I feel like people used it all the time when I was a kid, and only as an adult did I realize where that word probably came from, and stopped using it myself.

As for "Gyspy" in general, it's probably been further complicated by Tyson Fury's recent popularity:
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/box...g-traveller-heritage/5365b49e99cee5efd8269012

 

Actually, all Brooklyn Beers were brewed in Utica for about 10 years, and all bottled and canned products still are (per Wikipedia).

 

This is slightly off topic and I'm not sure why I even bother asking this sort of question any more, but ... do them 750's still exist? Local 1 and 2, Black Ops and so on? I feel like I haven't seen them in years but they used to be not that hard to find.